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MililaniBuckeye;816476; said:
I remember in 1988 debating whether or not I needed a hard drive for my Mac 512K, and if so whether it should their 5 MB standard or their new 20 MB model. IIRC, the 20 MB model was several was around $400 so I decided to wait until the cost was under $10 per meg. Now, where'd I put my Z-89?...
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Time flies...
 
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Don't do it, guys.

Honestly, the only reason a home user would have that much storage is if he is a huge movie freak and is really good at backing things up.

So why not just do a series of 250GB HDs? With RAID 5, you're assured to not lose anything if one goes down.

I would be interested to see what the phone call would be like to a harddrive restoration service with a 1TB harddrive.
 
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Best Buckeye;816541; said:
I just added a 80 gig, with Xp had to partion to 40,000 max with ntfs
The only way that could happen is if you have a device installed that is using FAT, or if you're using XP Home.

I have formatted 500Gb drives into single NTFS partitions with XP Pro without any issue. Don't know about 1Tb, though.
 
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I dont have the money, and my 250 gig external works fine for my movie storage.. but pops did just get a few of those TB HDs.. just built a movie theater in the basement, using Vista as the brain and every dvd he rents he's copying and every movie watched on cable is being recorded to create a massive library.. which i will then steal.
 
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sandgk;816550; said:
If NTFS is properly used the Volume limits are as follows
Theoretical: 2^64 clusters Actual: 2^32 clusters
This means that XP with NTFS has a practical Volume limitation which is 16 x the theoretical capacity of FAT32, significantly higher than the practical limit of 32 GB imposed on FAT32 format volumes.
Something does not add up BB.
Some quick math:
NTFS default large disk cluster size is 4,096 bytes (4 KB).

Theoretical 2^64 clusters:
4096 * 2^64
= 4096 * 18446744073709551616
= 75,557,863,725,914,323,419,136 Bytes
= 73,786,976,294,838,206,464 Kilobytes
= 72,057,594,037,927,936 Megabytes
= 70,368,744,177,664 Gigabytes
= 68,719,476,736 Terabytes
= 67,108,864 Petabytes
= 65,536 Exabytes
= 64 Zettabytes

Actual 2^32 clusters:
4096 * 2^32
= 4096 * 4294967296
= 17,592,186,044,416 Bytes
= 17,179,869,184 Kilobytes
= 16,777,216 Megabytes
= 16,384 Gigabytes
= 16 Terabytes


So the answer to the limitation question is there is no restriction in any way on NTFS (I believe NTFS isn't available on XP home). You could have a 16 TB partition.
 
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Taosman;817015; said:
Flash drive PCs are on the way.
Currently, they are pricey, but like most
computer hardware, the price will drop when flash drive memory becomes the standard.
IMO, Flash hard drive's will not overtake the current hard drive standard as the technology stands now. There is no way I would take a flash disk that has a limited number of read/write cycles for my main hard drive. I'd love to have a solid-state hard drive, but not one with the current flash technology. It would have to be more advanced than what is out now.
 
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Hodge;817032; said:
IMO, Flash hard drive's will not overtake the current hard drive standard as the technology stands now. There is no way I would take a flash disk that has a limited number of read/write cycles for my main hard drive. I'd love to have a solid-state hard drive, but not one with the current flash technology. It would have to be more advanced than what is out now.

I can see solid state boot drives in the near future, but for mass storage standard hard drives will be around for a while. IIRC Vista will let you use a flash drive as extra RAM.
 
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exhawg;817066; said:
I can see solid state boot drives in the near future, but for mass storage standard hard drives will be around for a while. IIRC Vista will let you use a flash drive as extra RAM.
We use these in our office:

http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/Products/Storage/Products_Overview.aspx?ProductID=2180

The iRAM has four DDR400 memory slots supporting 1Gb (mushkin ram appears to work best) so can be set up as a 4Gb drive. The PCI card is then jumpered via a SATA cable to the SATA controller on the motherboard. On newer PC's with onboard RAID 0+1, you can run two iRAMs and stripe the cards with RAID 0 to support up to 8Gb. "Everything" is on the card, there are no drivers needed and the SATA controller and mobo BIOS will see it as a physical hard drive, so you can partition it however you want without a virtual RAM preloader and boot into any OS that has basic 1.5Gb SATA support. There is also a lithium battery onboard, so the RAM card can retain data for up to 24 hours even when removed from the PC. As long as the PC is plugged in and drawing any stand-by power, then the RAM will not be flushed.

These things are absolutely insane when it comes to I/O performance. Data processing, photoshop, video editing ... I love these things!
 
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Hodge;817032; said:
IMO, Flash hard drive's will not overtake the current hard drive standard as the technology stands now. There is no way I would take a flash disk that has a limited number of read/write cycles for my main hard drive. I'd love to have a solid-state hard drive, but not one with the current flash technology. It would have to be more advanced than what is out now.
I don't think the MTBF of Flash RAM alone is the inhibiting factor, as most solid state storage technologies since NVRAM in the early 90s support up to one million erases, which would seem to give Flash RAM the edge as having a longer life than the mechanical parts of a platter drive.

The problem though is that todays standard Flash RAM cannot scatter data and write to direct memory bits at random. Since the quality of the RAM gradually diminishes with each erase, firmware has to be implemented to further map which blocks have been used, and map subsequent writes/erases to balance the life of the RAM across its total capacity (called 'wear levelling'). It must be done in premeditated blocks, so this queue action makes Flash memory very slow (~14Mb/s).

Considering both the speed/performance problem, and the fact that the price:bit ratio won't drop to physical platter drive levels that quickly, we won't see widespread usage of Flash RAM for large capacity storage (at least as it currently exists) for many, many more years.
 
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