'06-'07 Big Ten Basketball Season Awards

[jwinslow]

What's with the coaches? Conley not on first-team "All-Defensive Team". Didn't he lead the league in steals?

Yep. Another year, another egregious snub of an OSU PG.

also yes i realize coaches have "favorties" and "bias"

I can't think of a different reason for the following...

Also, Oden wasn't a unanimous first-team selection by the coaches.

Sour grapes?

I'd be a little more apt to accept Tucker getting POY over Oden if Tucker hadn't fallen apart like a $30 suit the last three games of the season.

Agreed. Wisky achieves first #1 ranking ever. How does Tucker handle this stage?

2nd half MSU - 6 misses, 1 dunk
2nd half OSU - 7 misses, 1 dunk, 1 layup

He does one thing well, scoring... and he didn't do that when it counted.

 

[OSU_Buckguy]

I'd be a little more apt to accept Tucker getting POY over Oden if Tucker hadn't fallen apart like a $30 suit the last three games of the season.

for the last three games of the season, tucker averaged 18 points and had an effective field goal percentage of 48%.

 

[bucknutz]

Congrats to all the bucks who received awards.

 

[jimotis4heisman]

Yep. Another year, another egregious snub of an OSU PG.I can't think of a different reason for the following...
Sour grapes?Agreed. Wisky achieves first #1 ranking ever. How does Tucker handle this stage?

2nd half MSU - 6 misses, 1 dunk
2nd half OSU - 7 misses, 1 dunk, 1 layup

He does one thing well, scoring... and he didn't do that when it counted.

with all due respect.

josh winslows view on basketball <<<<<<<<<tom izzo, thad matta, kelvin sampson, bruce weber, carmody etc etc etc.

just cuz ever single guy didnt vote for him doesnt mean that isnt the best list out there...

i dont know who voted for who. but if someone voted for a guy like sims a sr who had a great year (and gave oden fits) im not going to cry about it...

on the tucker issue, interesting how you fail to mention he follows up those two games by carrying his team with half their (26 of 52 pts) against msu...

 

[jwinslow]

josh winslows view on basketball <<<<<<<<<tom izzo, thad matta, kelvin sampson, bruce weber, carmody etc etc etc.

In other breaking news, Charlie Weis has a large pant size. I often prefer their lists over the media version.

I respect their scouting and bball IQ, but don't accept their choices as gospel. Is Conley unworthy of the defensive team? Was Butler not even a third team player last year?

on the tucker issue, interesting how you fail to mention he follows up those two games by carrying his team with half their (26 of 52 pts) against msu...

Edit: I'm watching Dodgeball and misread this part (the intelligence must have rubbed off). Disregard :p

However, those two games still cost Wisconsin the big ten.

 

[OregonBuckeye]

the confernce coaches awards i put the most stock in... especially in basektball, most of the teams play each other twice. these guys have each other scouted upside down, inside out, outside in, right side out, left side out...

the coaches choice have the only attraction to me at all...i could give a shit what the media thinks...

also yes i realize coaches have "favorties" and "bias" but these guys going into tourney play have the other 10 teams in the conference scouted to unbelieveable levels. to me its the most telling and only list i will look at without a single question.

I agree completely. I don't care what the media thinks at all.

 

[jimotis4heisman]

In other breaking news, Charlie Weis has a large pant size. I often prefer their lists over the media version.
I still will object when I think someone gets snubbed, like Conley on the defensive team, or Butler not even making the 3rd team last year. :atom:He had 16, not 26, 14 of those in the first half. Down the stretch, he struggled big time. He missed 6 jumpers, had 1 board & 1 rebound.

conley had a great year on def. hes not a lockdown stopper at this point. he doesnt draw the toughest gaurd matchup and got torched more than a couple of times. that being said hes a good defender. if you would like to discuss his individual defenses stregths and a full in depth ananylsis check out some of the game threads, and if you have more questions post in mikes thread and we can discuss it in as much depth as you please.

butler. do you really think he was third best in the league at his position? (which im not even sure what his position was...) i said it myself he is the glue on the team. the best defensive player. but i honestly dont think he had a great all team type year. thats my view. some will disagree. but i look at that list and i can see the justification. i dont know jamar, but from what ive seen hes given up a desire for individual awards to win as a team.

3/3 after the two games you listed tucker dropped 26.
those two other games did you watch them? do you understand the sling offense?

 

[jwinslow]

My brain was on hiatus re: 3/3 & 26 pts (see above).

What are your thoughts on Chris Kramer being selected?

You may be right that Butler was more valuable than he was prolific (all team selection), perhaps that's my disconnect wrt Butler. In 05 alone, I'd choose Butler before Horner. Horton crushed Butler in scoring, but was reckless with the basketball... was he a strong PG, or a SG playing out of position? It might be his uniform clouding my vision as well.

As far as being the best defender last year, that's why I found it strange that they selected Foster last year (who was no slouch).

 

[osugrad21]

DDN

Matta earns top honor; Tucker edges Oden in voting

By Mark Gokavi
Staff Writer

Wednesday, March 07, 2007
This is getting to be old hat for Thad Matta.
The Ohio State men's basketball coach has won either a league title, conference tourney crown or a coach of the year honor in six of seven seasons.


Matta earned his second straight Big Ten coaching honor Tuesday from both the league's media and coaches in separate voting. OSU (27-3) is a consensus No. 1 and won the outright league title with a 15-1 record.

 

[osugrad21]

ABJ

OSU's Oden gets 3 All-Big Ten honors

Ohio State center Greg Oden was selected first-team All-Big Ten freshman of the year and top defensive player, but lost out in player of the year voting to Wisconsin's Alando Tucker.
OSU's freshman guard Mike Conley Jr. was named first-team by the media and second-team by the coaches, and freshman Daequan Cook was picked as sixth man of the year by the coaches. Buckeyes coach Thad Matta was selected coach of the year by both groups.
Oden was also a sportsmanship honoree.
The U.S. Basketball Writers Association picked Matta as District V coach of the year and put Oden and Conley on the all-district team.

 

[osugrad21]

CPD

Dynamic freshman gets dunked



Wednesday, March 07, 2007 Doug Lesmerises

Plain Dealer Reporter
Columbus -- When Alando Tucker scored his first points at Wisconsin, Greg Oden was a 14-year-old high school freshman, not yet 7-feet tall, not yet a star.
Five seasons later, as the two best players in the Big Ten, the 23-year-old Tucker and the 19-year-old Oden represent the two corners of college basketball, old and new, past and future, lasting and fleeting, safe and spectacular.
Tuesday, the conference stuck with safe.

Yet stunningly, (or stupidly? absent-mindedly? enviously? spitefully?) Oden wasn't even a unanimous selection for the coaches' all-Big Ten first team. At least one coach who lost to Oden this year picked his five best players in the conference and squeezed out the big man for Adam Haluska or Drew Neitzel or Carl Landry.

That Ohio State freshman point guard Mike Conley Jr. was left off the coaches' first team altogether might be more egregious. Called the smartest player in the Big Ten by Painter, a special point guard by Iowa's Steve Alford and thrown into the player-of-the-year mix by Indiana's Kelvin Sampson on Monday, Conley was a first-team selection by the media but relegated to the second team by the coaches.

 

[OSUBasketballJunkie]

Dispatch

BIG TEN BASKETBALL
Buckeyes honored, but feel slighted
Oden, Conley miss out on recognition in several categories
Wednesday, March 07, 2007
Bob Baptist
THE COLUMBUS DISPATCH



If Greg Oden and Mike Conley Jr. ever felt they had something to prove to anyone other than themselves, their teammates and their coaches, it might be at the Big Ten tournament this weekend.
Oden, Ohio State?s 7-foot center, was honored as freshman of the year and defensive player of the year in Big Ten men?s basketball yesterday when the conference announced results of voting for its postseason awards.
Thad Matta was named coach of the year for the second straight season, and Conley, the point guard for the No. 1-ranked Buckeyes, joined Oden on the all-freshman team. But it was the recognition the players didn?t receive that was more conspicuous by its absence.

Continued....

 

[OSUBasketballJunkie]

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