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No, that wasn't my point. I was saying that no one goes out to look at the evidence without already having his mind made up one way or the other, based on his previous education. Since the evidence can lead you in either direction, what you ultimately settle on depends on what you believed...

Fair enough. What other motivation could an omnipotent God have? The subordinate motivations are to demonstrate His righteousness, compassion, mercy, and kindness, but those are all done for the purpose of His glory. As John Piper has written:

What I actually said was that evolutionists have their minds made up before looking at the evidence. Are you arguing that point? Of course, no one can really look into someone else's mind, but it's hard to imagine any adult having an open mind about evolution. Every child in the free world is...

External evidence is not persuasive to me, since I was convinced by the internal evidence of the Bible itself. Like the evolutionists, I already had my beliefs firmly in place before I took a hard look at the evidence. I can't tell you what could convince an objective person since I have never...

God is eternal and spiritual, and therefore is outside of the known physical laws, which He created in the first place. Everything He does is outside of the material world, although many of the effects He causes are inside of it.

Proof? Who said anything about proof? You say that the evidence supports a "big bang". I say it doesn't. You have your opinion and I have mine. This is not difficult. When you say that the evidence supports one view over another, you are offering an opinion. I might just as well look at...

No, those are just beliefs. In your opinion. In my opinion, it is not supported. None that you would consider credible, but of course any evidence leading to that conclusion is "not credible" by definition in your way of thinking. It's entirely pre-suppositional thinking. I have no problem...

I was thinking of Rob Lytle but then he sucked so I couldn't think of any good scUM backs. I guess I'll go with Leroy Hoard as having the best NFL career out of all of them. Which is not much.

You have James Coburn to blame.

In your opinion. You state it as if it was a fact, but it's not. It's just your opinion. Again, all I am asking is that opinions not be posted as if they were facts. Brewtus, I know you believe very strongly that there is evidence against the Bible. Gator, you apparently believe this theory...

Any phrase that begins with "It's all about..." Examples: "It's all about commitment" "It's all about the love" etc.

Sure, as long as your angle is atheism. What facts do you have that contradict the Bible? And leave out that straw man about the "flat earth". The Bible does not teach it and the idea that people used to believe it is just a myth. If you choose to avoid this topic, I will not press the...

Looks like he's changed from those awful red pants to some black ones. For a while there he looked like a deranged Redskins fan on gameday.

Anyone get a look at Sergio's outfit today? :slappy: He might as well put on the bunny suit from "A Christmas Story". Maybe we'll see that tomorrow.

Hey Max, I'm praying for you. Like BrutuS, I had a bout with the IT job market about 5 years ago but things are much better now. Chin up and all that sort of thing. There are better times ahead. Actually, this reminds me of a scene from a depression-era movie: Duke: I wouldn't worry about...

Actually, I think the quote should be... Anyway, have a great birthday sushi. :D

Maybe I'm just not up on stuff, but is it really true that Boeckman ran a faster 40 than Troy Smith?

Are you sure it wasn't 38 Special's "Chain Lightning"?

You rang? :D Congratulations Mike. Your life will be more complicated now, but the first one is really not that bad. It doesn't get really hairy until number 5. :tongue2:

Destination? How about Woody Hayes Drive? Sounds like a good destination to me. :D :gobucks1: