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1. Zero points. You're doing it wrong. If it's the referees' fault, you can't also blame the other stuff. 2. The refs still owe me my refund for 2016. Or at least put my refund into the next year's fund. I'm not convinced they're doing their job so I don't think they want my money.

Can we blame the referees for that, or do we need to say it's because of all the other stuff you said in your message?

That fanbase is almost as fun to make fun of as Penn State fans are. https://www.bobcatattack.com/messageboard/topic.asp?FromPage=1&ForumPID=6&PID=391584 I have my doubts about Fickell's 2011 team losing to Ohio. But none of those Tressel-led teams that played in (and won many of) BCS bowl...

Bowling Green

A new pet peeve (as far as I know... I'm not going to read through 172 pages to see if anyone else brought it up): People in crowds. I get that it's a lot of people, but you don't have to be assholes. We were at the game on Saturday, and in some areas, there's a bottle-neck. On one side, there's...

I get that no one really separated themselves from the pack during week 2, but what has Georgia done to convince someone that they should be #1? Or is that Kirby Smart's vote?

I want the cheaters to be 1-11 after Ohio State beats them. And the only reason for it being not 0-12 is because they already have a win over some lame-o. But.... and it was mentioned somewhere here before.. I find a lot of humor in thinking about Ohio State beating the cheaters in their house...

I don't get it. I mean, I enjoy watching people get angry about their teams losing, when it isn't my team losing. Normally, they show the game in the corner so we see what they're seeing. Or the reaction is in a window in the corner, with the game on the main window. Also, they're just watching...

I saw a lot of whining about Ohio State holding and it not being called. When Ohio State was called for holding (I think the score was still 14-0) right before punting to Texas, I think their fans just said that it was to make the stats look more even.

Maybe he just likes Notre Dame. Since he left ESPN, I can think of 3 times I heard of him or from him: once before the 2023 matchup between Ohio State and Notre Dame, once before the national championship game in 2024, and.... now. And I don't even remember what he said recently. Did he come...

Everyone can have an opinion. Or, more precisely, no one can have an opinion. Or... actually, only I can have an opinion. And that opinion is that everyone else's opinions are wrong.

More rounds of games at home fields for better-seeded games, please.

Yeah. I mean, I don't care if he's a hater, or who's doing the hating, or whatever. But let people have opinions. It seems very Penn State or Alabama to cry about all the people not in love with you. I never cared much about Jimmy Johnson before, but there's a 30 for 30 about Miami of the 1980s...

https://www.surlyhorns.com/board/topic/37784-sec-refs-suck/page/15/#comments Page 15 is where this past weekend starts.

There was some whining about officials. I think Ohio State had a holding call late in the game, eventually leading to an Ohio State punt. Ohio State was up 14-0 at the moment. They whined that it was only called because the refs wanted to even out the stat line. They whined that their touchdown...

I'm not working my website very well, or something, but someone posted Bama's meltdown on Finebaum's show. Awesome. I like the part where some lady calls in concerned that her kids shouldn't have to live through this. It's not fair to them. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!

I'm surprised to see LSU so low. (47.8%) And Auburn so high. (30.1%) I'm also surprised to see such big drops in a couple of spots - #2 Georgia (80.6%) to #3 Texas (69.7%) is 10.9%, and I think that's Arkansas (43%) to Notre Dame (32%) is 11%. Also, as an engineer, it hurts my eyes a little to...

https://www.surlyhorns.com/board/topic/46811-does-sark-know-that-field-goals-get-you-3-points/ Arguing about whether going for field goals or trying to convert 4th downs was the right thing to do. I'm glad things turned out the way they did, so I won't argue one side or the other. But I found...

A total of 5 people voted an SEC team #1? How many hitmen does the SEC office employ? They might be called into action. Top 2 in both polls are Big Ten. 3 of top 5 in coaches' poll are Big Ten. 2 of top 5 in AP poll are Big Ten.

I believe that the cheaters will keep it within 5.5 touchdowns, but not 5.5 points. I'll go with Western *ichigan.