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Hence why I brought Francona into the discussion to prove statistically his worth is equal to or less than Torre's. So Francona sucks too right?
Frankly, with the $$$ Boston is willing to throw into their payroll, they should be winning the World Series every year too right? 50 mil less than...
If you stand by that comment, then they don't lose because of Joe Torre, and there's no reason to let him go; unless he is labeled as the scapegoat. Frankly, if the personnel are the problem, I would think the blame would lay on Cashman's hands, not Torre's.
I never called him a virtuoso; who...
What does past performance pre-NYY have to do with his tenure in New York? I don't see what your point is. You can win 10 rings and go to a new team; if you lose then you're out. Likewise the vice-versa is true.
Statistically speaking, Torre has been just as successful if not more successful...
He brought them 4 World Series titles and a 60.4% win percentage
Terry Francona has brought the BoSox 1 World Series title and a 57.8% win percentage.
If Joe Torre = Llllloyd Carr, Terry Francona = Charlie Weis...
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Oh and btw...George would be an idiot if he fired Joe.
I have to agree with you both. MySpace is a prime example of how a anyone can win a popularity contest (even if they are quite unpopular in the real world). In a sense, it's kinda like the rep system here...
EDIT: And since I was repped for this post less than 1 minute after posting :lol: