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  1. Penn State Cult (Joe Knew)

    Well, that has the potential to be a full-fledged circus. It's supposed to be limited to 50+ year olds, but yeah ...... I looked through the OLLI catalog, there is also a course in "Re-Investigating 9/11."
  2. Penn State Cult (Joe Knew)

    I'm not a legal expert by any means --- but this ruling does seem right to me. The DA (Frank Fina) and the Judge (Feudale) KNEW that Baldwin said she was representing Penn State. Then Spanier/Curley say that Baldwin was representing them. It's on the Judge to figure that out then and there...
  3. Penn State Cult (Joe Knew)

    They're still charged with both "failure to report suspected abuse" and "endangering the welfare of children" --- which I would argue are the MORE damning charges of the bunch. And I do think those are going to trial. As for Cynthia Baldwin and who she represented ----- seriously, WTF...
  4. Penn State Cult (Joe Knew)

    I'm not an insider, but there was a not insignificant amount of "smoke" around Urban/Penn State in October 2011. I think it's fair to say he was at least giving it a moderate-level of consideration. The big issue: even in an "alternate universe" where there is no Sandusky story in November...
  5. Penn State Cult (Joe Knew)

    The odd thing: Florida really was NOT that quick with hiring Urban Meyer --- they fired Ron Zook mid-season (October 25 to be exact), and Urban agreed to be the new Gators HC on December 3. There were a full 13 days after Florida's regular season ended (also a full 13 days after Utah's regular...
  6. Penn State Cult (Joe Knew)

    Good post, and a perfectly fair post. Penn State leadership's strategy since July 2012 has been "always play nice with the NCAA, even if there are reasons to feel that they wronged us." And that's a perfectly reasonable and sane strategy during the heart of the sanctions, of course! And one...
  7. Penn State Cult (Joe Knew)

    When the federal government finally ends their Clery Act investigation, there will be a fine. It will likely be in the 6-to-perhaps-7-digits. But it will not "end our federal grant money." There is precedence: Eastern Michigan administrators tried to cover up that an on-campus murder that...
  8. Penn State Cult (Joe Knew)

    And what happens then is that a bunch of legislators and such look at the situation and say "well, now what? There's a big-time economic recession occurring in the Central portion of our state. Also, our state is not very well of in terms of providing higher educational opportunities to our...
  9. Penn State Cult (Joe Knew)

    This is 100% true. Yes, PSU does not appear inclined to do so. IMO, PSU should either (1) sue FSS or (2) admit they authorized the action. If I had to bet, I'd bet it's ~ 20% likely that PSU authorized the action. I don't know. I do know that doing neither (1) or (2) leaves unanswered...
  10. Penn State Cult (Joe Knew)

    Of course, yep. And when we get such a "sign off" in our work, we of course file it away in case it's needed for future reference. The Freeh/PSU letter of engagement is very boilerplate. It's also public. Under "Engagement limited to Identified Client", it specifically says "This will also...
  11. Penn State Cult (Joe Knew)

    To be fair, that's a carefully worded statement. Following paragraph is from your link, note the bold: In a statement, Penn State said, "It has been public knowledge for almost three years that the University had agreed that the NCAA and the Big Ten Conference would monitor the progress of the...
  12. Penn State Cult (Joe Knew)

    Freeh was being paid by Penn State. Freeh was not being paid by Mark Emmert or the NCAA. As such, unless expressly authorized by the client (Penn State), Freeh shouldn't be communicating with Emmert the NCAA while the report is being produced. That's basic professional behavior. I get that...
  13. Penn State Cult (Joe Knew)

    Of course, (1) I am a Penn Stater (an alum), and (2) I can 100% definitively say that I did not "allow kids to be raped in the name of winning football games." Approximately how many people associated with Penn State (alums, students, fans, admins, et cetera) do you think did "allow kids to be...
  14. Penn State Cult (Joe Knew)

    Fair enough, don't mind you jumping in. Freeh and Emmert ---- for whatever reasons ---- were communicating, giving each other status reports, answering each other's questions, et cetera from December 2011 through May 2012. Emmert was not Freeh's client. Given such, and my expectations for...
  15. Penn State Cult (Joe Knew)

    OK, cool, fair enough. Let's say Penn State is shut down before the start of the 2012-13 academic year. The immediate follow-up: (1) the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania still owns a whole bunch of buildings and research facilities and land in the middle of the state. (2) there are about 40,000...
  16. Penn State Cult (Joe Knew)

    Me. I only flipped over a police car and set in on fire in my youth. Part of growing up in Detroit and all. :-)
  17. Penn State Cult (Joe Knew)

    Well, as I said, your hypothesis is not impossible. But, as you must admit, your hypothesis is solely a hypothesis. The Freeh Report has tangible evidence and facts. Your hypothesis has neither. In the absence of anything tangible, I think it is fair to give folk the benefit of the doubt...
  18. Penn State Cult (Joe Knew)

    No offense, but I don't get your point here. Paterno WAS fired in November 2011. If the indictments didn't occur, and if the grand jury report wasn't released, that wouldn't have happened. Right?
  19. Penn State Cult (Joe Knew)

    Maybe so, nothing is impossible. But, if I'm reading this right --- you are implying that Emmert HIMSELF got all publicly morally outraged about what happened, but at the same time got in bed with both Freeh and other Penn State folk in covering-up things. Covering up things that are even...
  20. Penn State Cult (Joe Knew)

    Freeh dug. 3,500,000 e-mails. As has been proven in recent court releases, he was also in CONSTANT contact with Mark Emmert beginning in December 2011. Who knows why those two were talking that early, giving each other status reports and asking each other questions and feeding information...
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