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Man, you don't know much about anything, do you. The word "consensus" is exactly the wording the NCAA uses. In the NCAA Record Book I reference earlier, page 88, you'll see a section called "consensus national champions" and they list Ohio State in both years. If that's not the NCAA calling...

Yes, we are in agreement here. Your wording was you were "confirming" the NCAA. I'm not sure I'd use a non-official source to do that. Where do you think stassen get's his information? Come on, he's taking it from the same place, and just makes mistakes. I've sent him several corrections...

You have no clue how the NCAA keeps their records, do you?

I found it humorous you are "validating" the NCAA with a "who cares?" site. Of course not, but official is official and it's what everybody who matters will accept. I don't know that you have to be motivated to be wrong. The NCAA calls them a consensus champion. I'd say yes. In...

The fact is, what the NCAA say is official.

The US Senate must be mistaken too, as they noted that Texas won their 800th game after they beat USC. Come on, some guy with website say it, so it must be so? Give me a break. The Texas Tech forfeits were not mandated by the NCAA. No specific games were mentioned, none were forfeited and...

The NCAA does not. You can look those up in team media guides to find out where Stassen has it wrong.

I'm saying that you can find Ohio State at #3 at these ad hoc sites, and who would care except a bunch of message board geeks? Unless they are #3 according to the NCAA, they aren't #3.

Regardless if the records can be verified definatively or not, these are still what people are going to go by. If Ohio State doesn't become #3 on the NCAA's list, they aren't #3. Considering how many percentage points they are behind Texas, Texas would have to completely melt down to give...

Either your source is wrong on Oklahoma and Texas, or the NCAA is. I'm picking the NCAA.

The NCAA publishes the list every year. You can buy the book if you like. Online, you can get it here: http://www.ncaa.org/library/records/football/football_records_book/2005/2005_d1_football_records.pdf Page 76 has the winning percentage list...

Heh. A guy makes a post that has incorrect records for 3 of the 5 teams and misses one team, and I'm the one asked for proof when I point that out. That's funny.

There's no passing Texas this year. Texas only has 310 losses, not the 313 listed there. Plus, Oklahoma is currently 4th on the list and Ohio State is currently 6th.

At the risk of sounding simplistic here, what relevance is there in overall winning percentages? Southern teams play mostly southern teams (and visa-versa) so if they are winning a lot of the games, it does not mean they are better than teams they aren't playing, just dominating their region...

Possibly it was more like, "We'll sucker them into coming into our stadium and drop them for the return trip".

South Carolina had this same infraction a year or two back. It's a secondary violation and is not a big deal.

What do you want from a school that uses "boomer/sooner" as a cheer? Something that makes sense?

It bugs me too. I've been told by Oklahoma fans that it just sounds better. That's the best I can do, sorry.

Yeah, and you're lucky the NCAA limited the guide to 208 pages. You should have seen last year's guide.

You're not kidding. I go the other way. Since I can't tell you which is right (and neither can those other sources), I always go with the team I am checking with. That can mean both teams win a game, but it's factually accurate to the source that the NCAA and media outlets use and doesn't...