WR Ted Ginn, Jr. (Official Thread)

[billmac91]

I hope they trade Ted to a team that will use him the right way before his career gets derailed. The Dolphins organization right now is resembling the Bengals of the 90's. Totally [censored]ing inept. The D and O coordinators are flat out garbage and should be gone.

It's unfair to put all the blame on the Fins. Ted needs to step his game up.

That's fine and all, but don't forget how good Teddy looked in the pre-season.

It's one thing to be a speed threat and having teams respect the deep ball, and another thing to be a deep threat with no respect for the deep ball because the QB can't throw the ball more than 40 yards.

Without a doubt, Chad Pennington has taken away Teddy's competitive advanatge. Why would any CB in the league respect Teddy's speed, when they know Chad can't get him the ball on a deep route?

Why don't Miami fans recognize something so obvious?

 

[Buckeyecty4]

I hope they trade Ted to a team that will use him the right way before his career gets derailed. The Dolphins organization right now is resembling the Bengals of the 90's. Totally [censored]ing inept. The D and O coordinators are flat out garbage and should be gone.

That's fine and all, but don't forget how good Teddy looked in the pre-season.

It's one thing to be a speed threat and having teams respect the deep ball, and another thing to be a deep threat with no respect for the deep ball because the QB can't throw the ball more than 40 yards.

Without a doubt, Chad Pennington has taken away Teddy's competitive advanatge. Why would any CB in the league respect Teddy's speed, when they know Chad can't get him the ball on a deep route?

Why don't Miami fans recognize something so obvious?

I made that point in this thread, the day they signed Pennington, that it would hurt Ginn cause CHad has a terrible arm..

That being said, if Ginn wants to be a great all around WR.. a guy worthy of a Top 10 pick.. he should still have the ability to run short and intermediate routes and get open..

Against the Jets, he was totally shutdown by Revis. Pennington looked his way often, but he couldnt get open.

He had a good preseason, but in preseason you're not getting the same type of physical corner play and the same type of schemes..

Do I think a better QB and coaching staff would be putting Ted in better spots to succeed. Yes, but I dont think it's fair to act like Ted is just getting a raw deal in Miami. To not even be in the starting lineup for week 2, that tells me he's still a very raw WR..

What I dont understand is why he's not returning kicks.. that is just stupid

 

[Bestbuck36]

I never said that Ted had zero blame in the situation. Towards the end of last season Ted and John Beck started to develop a repoir that ended in the preseason. He started to get more looks on the deep outs and comebacks but now that its gametime, Pennington doesnt throw outside the hashmarks unless its a screen, hitch or swing to the back. On Sunday, Pennington threw the ball to the left a total of 2 times out of 20. The fact that Ted's route running is a work in progress only compounds the problem because Pennington is threading no needles with his passing. Henne has the arm to throw those passes in between defenders where Pennington will only throw the short or intermediate routes and those arent the ones Ted is being asked to run at the moment.

In the Jets game Revis did get the best of Ted but our coordinator has done nothing to help him out. No motion. No drag routes. Few misdirection plays at all with Ted thus far. The DB's know they only have to cover for 3 seconds because thats all the time Chad is getting for one and after that Ted will be out of range anyway. When you have someone with Ted's speed you use it or lose it. Plain and simple.

 

[OSUBasketballJunkie]

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Tony Sparano would like to see something different from his wide receivers Sunday against the New England Patriots.
I need somebody to step up and make a big play," the Miami Dolphins coach said Wednesday. "That's what I'm hoping to see. I'm hoping to see some of our receivers step up, make a big play, break a tackle, run after the catch and do something like that. That's what I want to see."
Miami has yet to get a big play from a receiver in two games this season. Only tight end David Martin (24) and wide receiver Derrick Hagan (20) have caught a pass of 20 yards or longer. Last year's No. 1 pick, Ted Ginn Jr., has only three receptions for an average of 8.7 yards, with a long of 14.

 

[OSUBasketballJunkie]

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Miami Dolphins coach: WR Ginn still growing

Dolphins coach Tony Sparano indicated Thursday that criticism of Ted Ginn Jr. is unjustified and that his playing time will increase Sunday at New England.
Ginn will play in some three-receiver sets, unlike last Sunday against Arizona, Sparano said. Though Ginn and Greg Camarillo started against the Cardinals, Miami used Camarillo, Davone Bess and Derek Hagan on three-receiver packages. Ginn was in for 29 plays, Sparano said.
''You can judge a player on how many throws he gets,'' Sparano said. ``If Ted was . . . getting stuffed at the line of scrimmage, wasn't getting involved in the routes, was dropping balls, had mental errors, then I'd be the first to say Ted needs to do a better job. But I'm not saying that.
``I'm happy what Ted Ginn has done. He's not doing those things -- he doesn't make mental errors; he is fast in the routes. The ball just hasn't gone his way in two games. That happens sometimes.''
Sparano said Ginn has ''improved an awful lot'' on ''catching the ball in the middle of the field'' but also added: ``Ted is more of a vertical guy. You need to get him a few balls early in the game. That's easier said than done.''
Ginn has three catches for 26 yards. Sparano did not indicate whether Ginn would return punts or kickoffs -- a role Bess handled against Arizona.

 

[UpNorthBuckeye]

Good day for Teddy G today - he caught 5 in a huge upset of of the Patriots.

He didn't break any, and in fact only had 49 yards receiving but still, good to see 5 catches.

C'mon Teddy, break one.

 

[OSUBasketballJunkie]

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Ted Ginn Jr. entered the game with three catches for 21 yards, but at New England had five catches for 49 yards.

 

[osugrad21]

Shot-Ginn coming to Miami?

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CREATING SPACE
And the best-case scenario? For starters, Miami has managed to create space for its offensive weapons.
Sparano even said, ``Quite honestly, we had even some other people in mind for down the road.''
That doesn't mean quarterback Chad Pennington is going to be throwing blocks from his spot as a wideout -- 'I told him in practice the other day, `Just get the hell out of the way if you can please,' '' Sparano said, joking -- but it does mean wide receiver Ted Ginn Jr. also could enter the mix.
Ginn said Monday he wasn't involved during the week when the team was installing plays in the package, but don't be surprised if future plans include him. At Ohio State, Ginn's team ran a package similar to the one used at Arkansas with running back Darren McFadden, which provided the inspiration for Sunday's game plan.
Ginn played the role of Brown, taking direct snaps in a system that became known as the ''Shot-Ginn'' package. In 2006, he even threw a 38-yard touchdown pass.
''You have more than me, Ricky and Ronnie that have the potential to make big plays,'' Ginn said. ``You've got a handful of guys. We all have a specialty to our game.
``It's just a matter of finding ways to exploit those specialties.''
Even after the Patriots had the halftime break to make adjustments, the Dolphins scored twice more on direct snaps to Brown: once on a 19-yard pass to tight end Anthony Fasano and once on a 62-yard run by Brown.
How teams will attempt to plan against the Dolphins' offense remains to be seen. But as Ginn pointed out, no matter how much they plan, those defenses still need to execute that plan.
`IT'S HARD TO STOP'
''It's not like it's something nobody has ever seen -- it's just not really run in this league,'' Ginn said. ``It can be something good for us. It's hard to stop because you don't know what you're going to get out of it. You see it -- but it's hard to stop it.
``You need to use it in spare moments, come back to it occasionally. You need to switch it up.''
For now, the package of plays will be viewed by many as a novelty, a strategy devised by quarterbacks coach David Lee that effectively helped the Dolphins defeat the Patriots. That might be the case, too.
At this point, though, the Dolphins already benefited from direct-snap plays that contributed to four touchdowns. That is a good start for Miami, regardless of what happens with the ``Wildcat.''
''The bottom line is, we just want to win,'' Sparano said. ``And I think that gave us an opportunity.''

 

[OSUBasketballJunkie]

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Ted Ginn, Jr. and Miami Dolphins Cannot Be Written Off

On Oct. 5, 2008, the Miami Dolphins will be playing against the San Diego Chargers. While the Miami Dolphins defeated the New England Patriots last Sunday, they still lost their first two games to the New York Jets and the Arizona Cardinals.

I have decided to take advantage of the days leading up to this important game by writing about Ted Ginn, Jr.

Many people have mixed feelings about Ginn Jr. as a wide receiver for the team. There have been people who have wanted to blame him for the 2007 season, which was a disaster. There are people who have wanted to blame him for Miami's performance in the current 2008 season.

The people that blame Ginn Jr. also have made comments that he is not making progress, and that the Miami Dolphins do not know what they are doing.

The people who play the blame game only glanced at his statistics in the NFL. Again, I have always said that not one person is to blame for the failure of the team. The Dolphins win or lose games depending on their teamwork or lack there of, as well as their confidence in the coach and/or management or lack there of.

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[shar6bin]

Miami Dolphins' Ginn must learn faster | MiamiHerald.com

 

[MrCodeDude]

Ginn played well today against the Chargers.

 

[methomps]

He played well, but he also needs to pay more focus to game situation. Twice in the 2nd half he went out of bounds when it would've been better to stay inbounds. The first was on a 3rd and long where he caught the ball and was chased out 2-3 yards short of the sticks. It is doubtful he would've gotten the 1st, but you at least have to try. Miami missed the FG. Then on the last drive he dove out of bounds when it probably would've been better to stay inbounds and keep the clock running.

 

[Bestbuck36]

Two big wins in a row! Ted made some nice plays down the wire to keep the drive going and run the clock out. He does need to try and fight for yardage a little bit more or stay in bounds. I think the staff may have had something to do with that though since he had two fumbles in preseason fighting for extra yardage. Just make the catch, get as much as you can and get down or out of bounds - live to fight another play. Works for me and it appears its working for the Dolphins as well.

 

[OSUBasketballJunkie]

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Ted Ginn's awereness needs work

South Florida Sun-Sentinel MIAMI - Ted Ginn Jr. led the Dolphins with seven receptions for 55 yards, tying a career-high he set in last year's season finale. But the second-year receiver's overall performance was still lacking, especially when it comes to game awareness.

Ginn ran out of bounds to avoid contact twice at the end of two second-half catches. The first was good for 9 yards, but the Dolphins needed 12 yards on that third down and Ginn could have challenged for it by being physical. Kicker Dan Carpenter missed a 42-yard field goal on the next play.

The second time Ginn ran out of bounds came on a 6-yard quick hitch pass when the Dolphins were trying to eat up the final 2:36 of the game.

Running out of bounds stopped the clock. All Ginn had to do was turn his run-after-catch efforts inside and dive to keep the clock going. Fortunately for the Dolphins, the drive turned out to be a 14-play possession that monopolizing the final 5:55.
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[OSUBasketballJunkie]

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Dolphins' Ted Ginn Jr. up against Chargers, brotherly rival Chris Chambers

Harvey Fialkov | Sentinel Staff Writer October 5, 2008 DAVIE - A mischievous, 8-year-old Ted Ginn Jr. used to tag along behind 15-year-old Chris Chambers up and down the hill that linked Green and Cliffview roads in Cleveland, either throwing a ball at him or smacking him to get his attention.

Now, 15 years later, Ginn is still trying to catch up to Chambers, hoping to attain the former Dolphin's Pro Bowl status as well as his current big-play role for the San Diego Chargers.

Both were mentored, coached and loved by Ted Ginn Sr., the legendary inner-city Glenville High coach who kept them away from gangs and drug dealers -- and on ball fields instead.

Ginn Jr. started nine games last year. His 34 catches for 420 yards were the most by a Miami rookie receiver since Chambers caught 48 passes for 883 yards in 2001.

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