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WR Ted Ginn, Jr. (Official Thread)

This will not be a great year for WRs in the NFL draft.
That means a bigger premium for those that are judged as first round guys.
Ginn will be a first round guy with a huge contract! $$$$$$$$

Not to get to far off of Ginn, but I think this is a great year for WRs in the NFL.

You'll most likely have Jarrett, Johnson, Smarhoweveryouspellit, possibly Sidney Rice (I'm not to sure on him leaving), and possibly Ginn. The difference between all of those guys and Ginn is that they're the prototypical big bodied Wrs, and Ginn is only 6'0'' (according to the article). Nobody is as explosive as him, but I wouldn't be shocked to see him come back for his senior year where he could definately be the #1 WR taken.

To get back on track, Ted Ginn is pretty good.:)
 
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Ted looks to have a stronger upper body in this Ozone picture.

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Ted Ginn Jr. heads out for practice on Tuesday.
 
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No way Ted would be in the top WR's taken in next years draft. Someone may pick him up for his special teams play alone but the '08 draft is one where Ted could go in the top 15 overall picks. I know I'm praying for Ted to come back next season but thinking objectively next season would mean not only a better payday but also a degree which Ted Ginn Sr. would be more appreciative of. Ted's going to get paid handsomely whenever he comes out.
 
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OSU's Ginn may be even faster, but still won't play defense


By Doug Harris
Staff Writer

Thursday, August 31, 2006

COLUMBUS — Ohio State receiver and kick returner Ted Ginn Jr. apparently won't be tacking on a stint at defensive back to his already glittering resume.
Although he was the national defensive player of the year as a cornerback at Cleveland Glenville High School, the nimble junior hasn't even practiced there since the 2004 preseason.
"I'm fine with it," Ginn said. "I just grew out of it."
Chris Gamble found a niche playing both ways in 2002 and '03, but the Buckeyes may not be as desperate for a cover corner as they were then.
"I think there was a time that it was (right) for Chris Gamble," Ginn said. "It was a good fit for him.
But right now, we have some guys on the defensive side that can play good defense and actually cover guys. There's no need for me to get over there."
Ginn had 51 catches for 803 yards last season and had a breakout game in the Fiesta Bowl with 260 all-purpose yards.
"Ted, since the spring, has really come on as a top-flight receiver," fellow wideout Anthony Gonzalez said. "He's done so much from a physical standpoint in terms of getting more explosive and getting faster and stronger, which is scary to think about. And on top of that, his knowledge of the game has really taken off in the last eight months."
Ginn already owns the OSU career record for punt-return TDs with five, and he's corrected a flaw in his footwork that could make him even more threatening.
"We tweaked his feet to help get him going a little faster," said receivers coach Darrell Hazell, who handles the kicking units. "They were too close together. We've widened them out. Hopefully, that will make him a little more shifty."
Rules favor underdogs?
College football has altered its rules to speed up the game, starting the clock on kickoffs once the ball leaves the tee and when it's spotted after a change of possession.
"I've guessed that it will take eight to 10 plays off the game," Northern Illinois coach Joe Novak said. "Other coaches have guessed 15-20 less plays, and that will be a big impact. Fewer plays in the game will favor an underdog. ... I think you'll even see a few more upsets then usual."
Eyes not on Texas?
OSU players have been persistent in saying they haven't peeked ahead to Texas, but Novak is skeptical.
"I think the coaches understand that you never want to overlook anybody, but I think you have a hard time selling that to the players at times," he said.
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[FONT=arial,sans-serif]No defense for Ginn in 2006
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COLUMBUS - Defense won’t be part of the Heisman Trophy campaign of Ted Ginn Jr.

The Ohio State junior receiver said today that he has not worked out as a cornerback during any part of the preseason and that the issue is over. Ginn was recruited as a defensive back out of Cleveland’s Glenville High, and talk remained during the preseason a year ago about playing both ways, like former Buckeye Chris Gamble.

“There was a time for Chris Gamble where it was a good fit,” Ginn said. “Right now, we’ve got some guys on the defensive side that can cover guys and there’s no need for me to be over there.

“I’m fine. It’s just, I guess, that I grew out of it.”
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OHIO STATE FOOTBALL
Mission: Impervious


Thursday, August 31, 2006Doug Lesmerises
Plain Dealer Reporter Columbus
-- It's not always easy to be the son of a man of the people. So sev eral weeks ago, Ted Ginn Sr., the pied piper of Glenville High, apologized to his son, Ohio State receiver Ted Ginn Jr.
A high school football coach and more, Ginn Sr. told his 21-year-old son he was sorry for the times he wasn't com pletely there for him while he spent his energy trying to change other lives.
"Everybody's got to worry about their kid," Ginn Sr. said, "but I really don't worry. So I apologized for that."
His son's answer: "I'm with that."
His father couldn't imagine a better answer.
That's the answer Ted Ginn Jr. could give to every situation. "Impervious to insult" is how teammate Anthony Gon zalez described the young Ginn, a quality that can sometimes lead to misunderstandings. Like last year, when he accounted for 201 yards of to tal offense and one touchdown in the first five games of the season, and every one wondered what was wrong.
He didn't think anything was wrong. He wasn't worried about his place in the offense, about his statistics, about what wasn't happening that others thought should be. If the ball was going elsewhere, he was with that. If his dad can spend his time on someone else, he's with that.
"It's a blessing, man," Ginn Jr. said. "Some people don't even have their father at 50. For my father to be helping young black kids go to a place they dreamed of . . . he put me out here to live, he made me to one day be a man. And now, I'm a man.
"I'm cool, you go ahead, you take care of the next person in line, because the next person is going to be the most important. I went through everything. I might have stumbled, but I'm still up on top, and I still know how to handle my business."
To Ginn Sr., the idea that his son's specific receiver skills were questioned last year is a joke. He points to the places in the front yard where Ted was running routes and catching his dad's passes as soon as he could walk.

But in Columbus, the Buckeyes see that Ginn has elevated his game following the departure of No. 1 receiver Santonio Holmes.
"I think he's a totally different receiver than he was when last year began," OSU coach Jim Tressel said. "He's very aware that he may be seeing some different things than he's seen in the past, and I think he understands the game."
Said quarterback Troy Smith: "He's learned the game as a wide receiver. There are things he understood before, but now I think everything is magnified 10 times."

Ginn expects more double coverage, though he saw his fair share last season, when he finished with 51 catches for 803 yards and four touchdowns. (Holmes had 53 catches for 977 yards and 11 scores.) He's ready to be No. 1.
"It's my job to step up to the plate and swing the bat," Ginn Jr. said.
He'll continue as Ohio State's lead kick and punt returner, maybe even better than the player with six return touchdowns in two years. Coach Darrell Hazell said they widened Ginn's stance when he catches the ball to allow him to evade tacklers more effectively immediately after a catch. But he won't play defense, a possibility that had followed him through last season after he was recruited as a defensive back.
"That's completely not even a factor anymore," he said.
Ginn doesn't worry about what he's not. Whatever this year holds, he's with that.
Notable:
Ohio State announced that four walk-on players had been awarded scholarships for this season: senior fullback Ryan Franzinger from St. Ignatius, second-team sophomore center Tyler Whaley, junior fullback Trever Robinson and senior receiver Derek Harden. . . . Senior Roy Hall, ticketed to be the Buckeyes' third receiver, was held out of practice. His availability is day-to-day, said assistant coach John Peterson.
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Speedy Ginn leaves Huskies grasping air


Sunday, September 03, 2006

Bill Livingston
Plain Dealer Columnist

Columbus- The North ern Illinois cornerback cheated toward the line of scrimmage early in the game, trying to jam Ted Ginn Jr. and interrupt his pattern. But how do you shutter a flash? How do you catch the wind? How do you jam college football's speediest racer?
"It's hard to adjust to speed until you've had to try to cover it. We thought maybe we could show them some speed they hadn't seen before," said Ohio State coach Jim Tressel. "The guy [NIU's Alvah Hansbro] moved up and tried to play press coverage with no help behind. I don't know, that's tough duty. But that's what they do. And so Teddy ran by him."
Ginn wasn't just open, he was Fiesta Bowl open. That was when Ginn galloped through the Notre Dame secondary like a rider of the purple sage and hauled in a 56-yard first-quarter touchdown pass from his former Glenville High School teammate, Troy Smith.
Saturday, Ginn hauled in a 58-yard first-quarter touchdown pass from Smith on the first snap of the Buckeyes' second series. OSU went on to 35-12 victory over the Mid-American Conference favorites.
"Was jamming you a foolish thing to try?" Ginn was asked.
"I guess so," he said, with a hint of a smile.
Smith and Ginn had the kind of opening that increases their already loud Heisman Trophy buzz. Smith was everything OSU hopes a more mature senior leader will be. Ginn, a junior, was everything he was supposed to be from the get-go last season.
In 2005, Ginn burst onto the cover of Sports Illustrated catching five passes for 75 yards and one touchdown, plus accounting for 35 yards in kick returns and 11 yards in rushes in the opener against Miami of Ohio. He seemed to treat the big exposure as a spotlight that blinded him.
He was not a major factor in the season's defining game, the Week 2 loss to Texas. He cut the wrong way, unable to find his way in the glare, on a 46-yard kickoff return that could have gone all the way. It was not until the midpoint of the season against Michigan State that he scored again.
Saturday, Ginn caught four passes for 123 yards and two touchdowns. Spectacular as he has been, it was his first game as a Buckeye with more than one touchdown catch. He also had two punt returns for 22 yards each and two kickoffs for 25 yards.
Give this guy space, and you can't jam him with a Star Wars defense system.
Texas, again the Week 2 opponent, in Austin this time, will be different. But so is Ginn. While Santonio Holmes is in the NFL and is no longer the lead receiver, Ginn is more comfortable with the expectations for him at OSU.
Although Ohio State had a lot of guys who could get open against Northern Illinois, the field will be more crowded in Austin. "It's a different year. Last year, I played a role. This year, I am the role," said Ginn, which apparently means he has won the part of the go-to guy.
"I want to be the guy who steps up, to be the one at crunch time to make the tough catches," Ginn said.
He made his toughest catch late, when the sun was low and a day that felt autumnal was turning colder. After the 58-yard touchdown catch in the first quarter, he adjusted on the fly in the fourth quarter, as Smith's ball tracked very high and slightly wide. A desperation tackle by Hansbro held him to a 56-yard gain.
"I give myself a 'B-plus,' " said Ginn. "I missed a couple of blocking assignments."
Ginn touched the ball eight times against NIU and accounted for 170 all-purpose yards. Only twice was he held below 10 yards. The second time was on a 4-yard pass in the second quarter. He caught a 5-yard pass for a touchdown inside the goal-line pylon for the Buckeyes' first touchdown.
"I ran it to the distance called," he said.
In the Rose Bowl after Ohio State's national championship season in 1968, Southern Cal's O.J. Simpson broke free for an 88-yard touchdown run.
"How could he run 88 yards?" demanded irate coach Woody Hayes.
Said assistant coach Lou Holtz: "Eighty-eight was all he needed."
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[email protected], 216-999-4672
Previous columns online:
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He could have had 3 MORE TD'S . He was so open about 6 times and mean way open. The c and s were behind him 5 to 10 yards on the ones I saw. Those top 4 wr's are all amazing. Osu showed a little but, Tressel had them on hold from what they could do.
 
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I was really impressed with Ted's route running yesterday, he was very crisp. It's pretty apparant that he's going to be an absolute nightmare for opposing corners this season. He lived up to the hype in game 1. Big games like next week (Texas) are where legends are made, and postseason awards are won.
 
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OHIO STATE NOTEBOOK
Ginn determined to play better in this matchup
Thursday, September 07, 2006
Ken Gordon and Tim May
THE COLUMBUS DISPATCH



Last season against Texas, Ted Ginn Jr. gained 9 yards, one for each letter in his name.
He had just two catches and also lost 2 yards on a rush attempt. The Ohio State junior receiver plans to make amends when the No. 1 Buckeyes travel to Austin to take on No. 2 Texas Saturday night.
"Last year is last year. I want to keep last year where it was and worry about this year," Ginn said yesterday. "I want to come out, make myself known and let them know I?m on the field."
He got off to a good start last week, catching four passes for 123 yards and two touchdowns. He says he?s come a long way since last season, mainly because the departure of Santonio Holmes to the NFL has left him as the go-to receiver.
"In order to be a go-to guy, everything has to be right," he said. "You have to be on point with routes, catching the ball no matter where the quarterback puts it, and just have confidence. Right now, my confidence is high and I?m rolling."
Ginn?s cause might have been helped by the suspension of Texas cornerback Tarell Brown on gun and drug charges Tuesday. Brown was expected to shadow Ginn.
"It?s clear he was one of their best players," quarterback Troy Smith said. "He was a great player."
The week before last year?s Texas game, Ginn was on the cover of Sports Illustrated. His performance in the 25-22 loss started a stretch of belowaverage games that lasted until midseason. No wonder he wants to put it behind him.
"That was a tough thing," Ginn said. "I just want to make sure it?s not a repeat."
No overreaction

Like Ginn, the Ohio State coaches apparently did not overreact to the news that Brown would not play. Publicly, at least, offensive coordinator Jim Bollman indicated the game plan wasn?t in extensive rewrite headed toward today?s final full practice.
"We are treating nothing anything different," Bollman said. "I?m sure they will have a very capable young man to fill in the spot."
Junior Brandon Foster and sophomore Ryan Palmer were the next ones in line on the Texas depth chart. They have one thing in common: They?re from Bowie High School in Arlington, Texas. They have one thing in common with Ginn: They were all track standouts in high school.
No change in ? D ? plan

The Buckeyes rolled more than 22 players through the mill on defense throughout the season-opening win over Northern Illinois. It was especially apparent on the defensive line, where ends Jay Richardson, Vernon Gholston, Lawrence Wilson, Alex Barrow and tackles Quinn Pitcock, David Patterson, Joel Penton and Todd Denlinger saw extensive action.
"A lot of guys got a lot of reps ? and we?re going to need to do the same thing, I think, down there (in Austin)," codefensive coordinator Luke Fickell said yesterday.
Still switching

Bollman said the Buckeyes will continue to rotate Tim Schafer and Steve Rehring at left guard, just as they did last week. Each played about two series at a time throughout the whole game, and neither seized control of the job.
"Believe it or not, they graded out identical," Bollman said.

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Time to toot his horn
Jason Lloyd Journal Register News Service
09/07/2006

Buckeyes need much more from Ginn on Saturday than they got last year vs. Texas
In what was supposed to be his coming-out party, when the entire country was supposed to see his breakout performance last year against Texas, Ted Ginn Jr. went bust.
He touched the ball three times on offense - catching two passes for 9 yards and running it once for minus-2.
That's it.
Ohio State's most explosive player on offense touched the ball exactly three times.
"There was nothing that was hanging over my head or no pressure or anything," Ginn said. "I just tried to take my role and play it. And I think I played it."
He was on the cover of Sports Illustrated the week of the game, being touted as one of the country's top playmakers. But Texas defensive back Michael Huff wasn't so impressed.
Huff was the first to criticize Ginn's route-running ability last year, claiming Ginn rounded off routes instead of making sharp cuts.
Soon after that game, after the Longhorns' secondary eliminated him so easily, the rest of the country began to question Ginn as a receiver. He had only two games over 100 yards receiving, and the first didn't come until the ninth game of the season.
Now is his chance to make it all better. With the rematch in Austin only days away, Ginn has the opportunity to show how far, if any, he has progressed as a receiver since last September.
"One thing that is a plus now for Ted, just like any player, the more that you get collegiate experience, the more and more you start to understand your role in the scheme and the thick of things, and you become a better player," quarterback Troy Smith said. "You become a more confident player. Those things are starting to stand out with Ted now."
Like with Smith, Ginn's biggest change has come in the film room. Buckeyes coach Jim Tressel kept repeating last year that Ginn was still a young receiver still learning his way, since he primarily played quarterback and defensive back in high school.
That put him well behind more experienced receivers and accomplished defenses that had a better understanding of passing games and pass defenses. Now Ginn is catching up.
"He had such a great offseason, not just working hard physically, but he pretty much beat down the film room also," Smith said. "He was always in the film room, staring at coverages and trying to really, really, really learn every defensive back he's going to oppose down to a T. I think that time and energy that he put into just learning the job is hopefully what helps him separate himself from the next guy."
Ginn's confidence was evident in the Northern Illinois game last week. Realizing Santonio Holmes is gone and it's up to him now to make most of the big plays on offense, Ginn outran the Huskies' secondary to catch four passes for 123 yards and a touchdown.
"It's a different year and different times," Ginn said. "Last year, I played a role. This year, I am the role."
Outrunning Northern Illinois' defensive backs is one thing. Doing it to Texas is completely different.
The Longhorns rarely even used double teams to take Ginn out of the offense last year - single coverage and the pressure brought against the quarterbacks usually did the trick. But that might not work this year, especially after Texas coach Mack Brown suspended No. 1 cornerback Tarell Brown for Saturday night's game.
Brown and teammate Tyrell Gatewood, a backup linebacker, were both suspended following drug and weapon charges earlier this week, which means Texas now will likely double Ginn on most plays.
"Jim (Tressel) is a great coach, and he'll put (Ginn) in one-on-one situations," Mack Brown said. "Because they play him in so many different places, it's difficult (to double him). It's not just like he's a wideout. He's kind of a half-running back, half-receiver. They do a good job of trying to keep you from matching up with him."
Texas receiver Limas Sweed had the game-winning touchdown catch last year against the Buckeyes, and it changed his career. He's a more confident receiver now and the player the offense will look to Saturday night to make all the big catches.
Ginn, while showing flashes of brilliance on offense, still hasn't evolved into that No. 1 guy. A big game Saturday night could go a long way in changing all of that.
"I think he's progressed quite a bit (since last year). I think maybe we've progressed along with it," Tressel said. "I think maybe the more and more we learned about him and his teammates and what people do best, it allows people to statistically improve. But we're going to need Ted Ginn to have an excellent football game to have a chance to win against an excellent defense. There's no question about that."
 
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Ginn's goal: To be the Guy
BY JIM NAVEAU - Sep. 8, 2006

[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]COLUMBUS ? Ted Ginn Jr. is far from the only receiver Ohio State will be looking for in the passing game against Texas, but he might be the most important one.
At least, OSU hopes Ginn is much more productive than he was last season in a 25-22 loss to the Longhorns when he caught two passes for tight end-type gains of three yards and six yards.
Ginn started this season on a high note when he scored on passes of 58 yards and 5 yards from Troy Smith in a 35-12 win over Northern Illinois last Saturday.
He didn?t live up to the hype bestowed on him early last season after a flashy freshman season. But in his final two games of 2005, he caught eight passes each against Michigan and Notre Dame.
Ginn says he worked hard over the summer, particularly with Smith, to improve over last season when he had 51 catches for 803 yards and 4 touchdowns.
?All summer and spring I concentrated, I wanted to get better in all areas. I?m just trying to be that receiver who can come through and make big catches,? he said.
?I?m going to try to step up and be that guy, I?m going to try to step up and ask for the ball and come through with tough catches. In crunch time, I want to be the guy they go to.?
Smith, who first got onto a football field with Ginn in elementary school, sees improvement in him this year.
?I think one thing that is a plus for Ted now is that the more and more you get collegiate experience you start to understand your role in the scheme of things and you become a more confident player,? he said.
But he doesn?t play favorites, even for an old friend. ?I don?t choose guys to throw to. I throw to guys who are open,? Smith said.
Texas coach Mack Brown talked about Ginn first when he discussed OSU?s receivers on a teleconference call earlier this week. But he said the list of concerns doesn?t end with him.
?We obviously have to figure out what to do to try to keep it out of his hands,? Brown said. ?We all talk about Ted Ginn Jr. because he can make so many plays, but all of them (Ohio State?s receivers) can make plays.?
Texas senior cornerback Tarell Brown figured to lead the coverage on Ginn. But he was one of two Longhorns suspended after being arrested when they were found riding in a car in which police found marijuana and a gun.
Obviously, Brown wasn?t going to reveal his defensive plans. But at his weekly news conference he said about Ginn, ?Because they play him in so many different places, it?s difficult. It?s not just like he?s a wideout. He?s kind of a halfback, running back and wide receiver. They do a good job of trying to keep you from matching up with him.?
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Taosman said:
Grad, the type from some of your C &P articles keeps showing up as
blue on my screen?
Is it just my browser?
Can you do anything about the blue print?
Hard to read with these old eyes............
In the meantime while you wait for him to edit, you can copy & paste into word and change the color to whatever is best.
 
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