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WR Ted Ginn, Jr. (Official Thread)

I honestly can't see Ginn coming back for his senior season. Troy will be gone, and so will some of the lineman. If he's going to be an early first rounder the kid would be nuts to return. Look at what happened to Leinart, it cost him millions of dollars.


Leinhart had just won the Heisman though and won a national championship. If Teddy wins the Heisman he has no business staying. If Troy wins the Heisman, Teddy could be a front runner next season as well as be in very good shape to be the all-time returner in college football history which would only help his draft stock. Personally, I think he's gone but I hope I'm wrong.
 
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Walter Camp watch list! (not really a surprise though)

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Dispatch

OSU FOOTBALL
Ginn out to make big plays rule rather than exception
Wednesday, August 23, 2006
Ken Gordon
THE COLUMBUS DISPATCH
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</td></tr> <tr><td class="credit" width="200"> ADAM CAIRNS COLUMBUS DISPATCH </td></tr> <tr><td class="cutline" width="200">Ted Ginn Jr. hopes better route running will help get him open for important third-down catches. </td></tr> </tbody></table> </td></tr> </tbody> </table>
He announced the other day that he wants to be called Ted. Not "Teddy," just Ted.
Parents can relate to this, to the moment when little Jimmy declares that from now on, he’s Jim. It sounds more grown up.
And in this case it seems fitting, because Ohio State receiver Ted Ginn Jr. has worked hard to morph from flash-onthe-scene freshman to a more mature, more polished junior.
In between, he weathered a sophomore slump of sorts, although plenty of sophomores would have liked to have a 51-catch, 803-yard season in which he scored seven touchdowns in four different ways (receiving, kickoff return, punt return and rushing).
The Ginn that has emerged from this process is a player who seems to understand that his role has changed. Last year’s No. 1 target, Santonio Holmes, left early for NFL riches.
Ginn is expected to assume the mantle of dependable, responsible playmaker. Consistency must be paramount.
"I’m always there to make a big play, but I’m a receiver, too," Ginn said. "So if I get a 20-yard gain, that’s a great play. I just want guys to know that I’m going to be that guy that you can count on (at) any time of the game."
To get from "occasionally dazzling playmaker" to "reliable for 8 yards on third-and-7," Ginn has worked hard on his weaknesses coming to college — mainly, route running.
He said he can tell he’s improved in that area by how practices are going lately.
"Because I’m getting open," he said. "Guys are telling me, ‘Your routes are getting right, getting crispy, your timing is right.’ So I enjoy that. Guys are letting me know that I’m doing good, and I’m glad that I am."
Coach Jim Tressel concurred.
"I think that’s something he’s gotten better and better at," Tressel said. "Now I think you’d have to characterize him as an excellent route runner if you study the film."
Coming off a dazzling finish to 2004, so much was expected of Ginn last season. He was on the cover of Sports Illustrated after the Buckeyes’ opener. A month later, the question was, "Where has Ginn gone? "
He was running sideways on punt returns and getting tackled. He was catching two or three passes a game, with no scores. His reverses were going nowhere.
Part of it was the changing of quarterbacks, from Justin Zwick to Troy Smith. Part of it seemed to be a strategy of using Ginn’s presence almost as a decoy.
"We just go by the game plan," Ginn said about the struggles.
Tressel said he was reluctant to mess much with Ginn’s return technique, viewing him as a rare talent who relied on instincts.
"It’s like the risky-stock syndrome," he said. "Teddy’s the kind of guy, sometimes he sidesteps and takes a little move to the outside and it might be gone the next time. So I don’t ever like to squash one’s creativity."
Fellow receiver Anthony Gonzalez has been raving since December about the improvement he has seen in Ginn. He said it again yesterday.
"Ted since the spring to me has really come on as a topflight receiver," Gonzalez said. "He’s done so much from a physical standpoint in terms of getting more explosive and getting faster, getting stronger, which is scary to think about. And on top of that, his knowledge of the game has really taken off in the last eight months."
Most important, maybe, is Ginn’s knowledge of what’s expected of him. No, he hasn’t lost the ability or urge to take it to the house.
"It’s a mind-set," he said. "Nobody goes out without trying to catch the ball and score."
But he also knows OSU’s offensive house must rest on a stable foundation, which is why he adds, "Now it’s catching the ball, getting upfield, making the plays you’re supposed to make."
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"Ted since the spring to me has really come on as a topflight receiver," Gonzalez said. "He’s done so much from a physical standpoint in terms of getting more explosive and getting faster, getting stronger, which is scary to think about. And on top of that, his knowledge of the game has really taken off in the last eight months."

That is scary. I like being scared.
 
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"Ted since the spring to me has really come on as a topflight receiver," Gonzalez said. "He’s done so much from a physical standpoint in terms of getting more explosive and getting faster, getting stronger, which is scary to think about. And on top of that, his knowledge of the game has really taken off in the last eight months."
this was very evident at the practice monday night. Ginn has always been explosive, but his cuts were much crisper and devastating. The biggest change was his physicality, he was able to initiate contact with the DBs, use his strength to gain a step on them and then separate with his elite speed.
 
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this was very evident at the practice monday night. Ginn has always been explosive, but his cuts were much crisper and devastating. The biggest change was his physicality, he was able to initiate contact with the DBs, use his strength to gain a step on them and then separate with his elite speed.

He definitely was more physical with the DB's. He had a couple cuts I thought looked amazing, but I couldnt tell if it was because of the speed of the practice or what. A faster more explosive Ginn is very scary.
 
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I have a feeling you're setting your expectations low...

If he does go, you called it all along, no hard feelings (despite secretly hoping he stays). If he stays, you're even more joyous because you 'expected' him to leave.

Ah, the little mind games we play with ourselves as self-preservation.

He's gone. Everyone talking about this graduating factor. Um, you can still graduate after you go the NFL by coming back and taking classes.

HAYN
 
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Article published Sunday, August 27, 2006

Misused speedster won't win top trophy


COLUMBUS - Ted Ginn Jr. is on the path to stardom.

But don't look for him to hoist the Heisman hardware in what likely will be his final season at Ohio State.

Ginn has outrageous speed and extraordinary talent.

But the receiver/returner doesn't get enough opportunities to excel or showcase his skills.

Sometimes ever-conservative coach Jim Tressel forgets that Ginn is one of the most dangerous and explosive players in the country.

Ginn has been misused again and again by the Ohio State coaching staff.

The Buckeyes need to get the ball in his hands more often.

"Ted's got nothing but positive energy," Ohio State quarterback Troy Smith said. "He's a player that wants to get better, day in and day out. Wisdom and time are going to do nothing but make him better.

"I think he's going to be a great, great player before he's finished at Ohio State."

Ginn had a strong finish to his sensational freshman season, when he averaged a touchdown every seven times he touched the football.

Much was expected of him a year ago. But he suffered through a bit of a sophomore slump after being touted as a Heisman hopeful and appearing on the cover of Sports
Illustrated.

Ginn wants everyone to know that he is a more polished player as a junior, both on and off the field.

He no longer wants to be called Teddy, just Ted.

Ginn also made it clear that with the departure of Santonio

Holmes to the NFL, he is ready to be Smith's primary target. Holmes was a first-round pick of the Super Bowl champion Pittsburgh Steelers.

"Santonio was a great receiver, but he's gone," Ginn said. "We have to move on and go with the next guys coming up. We have some good receivers coming up with Anthony Gonzalez and Roy [Hall]. We have to be ready for those guys to step up and make plays.

"When they say Ohio State, they just can't say Ted Ginn. They have to say Anthony
Gonzalez and Roy Hall. You just have to be ready for things like that."

A year ago, Smith replaced Justin Zwick as the starting quarterback in the third game. He divided the ball pretty evenly between Ginn (51 catches, 803 yards, four touchdowns) and Holmes (53 catches, 977 yards, 11 scores).

The 21-year-old Ginn, who has added five pounds to his slender 6-foot, 180-pound frame, said the Buckeyes are not feeling any added pressure from being the top-ranked team in the preseason polls.

"It's time to rock and roll," he said. "I'm very excited. We're ranked No. 1 - it's an honor and a pleasure - but it's going to be a hard road. We've just got to play tough and play hard."

Ginn frequently was tripped up by his route running when he first arrived at Ohio State. But he's worked hard to improve that area of his game.

"Now I think you'd have to characterize him as an excellent route runner if you study the film," Tressel said.

The electrifying Ginn is lightning quick.

That has helped speed up his development as a receiver.

"I'm comfortable all of the time," Ginn said. "You have to come in with a level head. I just want to come in and make plays for my seniors. I think I've improved at route running and reading defenses and just being comfortable."

Ginn can kick it in on returns, as well.

He has a Big Ten-record five career punt returns for touchdowns and a kickoff return for another score.

Smith is expecting more of the same this season from Ginn, whom he has known since their childhood days growing up in Cleveland.

The dynamic duo played for Ginn's father, Ted Sr., at Glenville High School.

The elder Ginn coached Smith and considers him a son. Ginn Jr. and Smith consider each other brothers.

Touchdown Ted more than likely won't win the Heisman, but perhaps he could hand it off to his good buddy Smith.

Ron Musselman is a Blade sports columnist.

http://www.toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060827/COLUMNIST37/608270341/-1/SPORTS
 
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