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WR Ted Ginn, Jr. (Official Thread)

One advantage of being seven hours ahead is that we see get to see Ginn a few hours earlier as he does that space-time thing he does. So, it's really an unfair advantage but I knew it before he caught it.

The real paradox is that Mili has been keeping this under his hat but he is almost exactly on the opposite side of the Earth and he sees Ginn at the same instance that we do. It's truly uncanny and you can trust me, I'm in marketing. :biggrin:
 
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What are you talking about??? The kicker had a GREAT angle on him. Now if only he could shave about 8 tenths off that 40-time...

The kicker didn't have a good enough angle to catch him, which is what I stated. A lot of Gopher players still has an angle on Teddy when he was at the 25, but he was too fast for them to catch him. Personally I think that is the first time Teddy made it to sixth gear since he's been at OSU. He actually had 40-50 yards where he had the throttle all the way open, which was a first as far as I can remember.
 
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The kicker didn't have a good enough angle to catch him, which is what I stated. A lot of Gopher players still has an angle on Teddy when he was at the 25, but he was too fast for them to catch him. Personally I think that is the first time Teddy made it to sixth gear since he's been at OSU. He actually had 40-50 yards where he had the throttle all the way open, which was a first as far as I can remember.

I was agreeing with you in my own way, which of course included complimenting a Buckeye and taking a sarcastic jab at an opponent, albeit a kicker. And I did it all in one and a half sentences. Certainly a better post than this grammatical mess, don't you think?
 
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I was agreeing with you in my own way, which of course included complimenting a Buckeye and taking a sarcastic jab at an opponent, albeit a kicker. And I did it all in one and a half sentences. Certainly a better post than this grammatical mess, don't you think?

Yes, but I wanted to post my whole theory about Ginn's top speed and that was the best way to do it. :p
 
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i actually called touchdown before the kickoff because i just had a feeling that minny would be real confident in what they could do against us and we would burn them. i told my friend "told ya" before ginn even broke loose at about the 15 as soon as saw gonzo coming out of the screen towards ginn for the ballfake. i chuckled in an evil manner the rest of the way.:biggrin: my friend thought i was miss cleo
 
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i actually called touchdown before the kickoff because i just had a feeling that minny would be real confident in what they could do against us and we would burn them. i told my friend "told ya" before ginn even broke loose at about the 15 as soon as saw gonzo coming out of the screen towards ginn for the ballfake. i chuckled in an evil manner the rest of the way.:biggrin: my friend thought i was miss cleo
Your friend thought you were a chic? Ha ha:biggrin:
 
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Ginn at CB vs. NW?
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Ginn's Role to Expand?
By John Porentas

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OSU's dynamic sophomore Ted Ginn Jr. is currently sporting three titles on the OSU football roster, punt returner, kick returner and wide receiver, but OSU fans are transfixed on the idea that Ginn can be also be a lock down cover corner. Ginn, after all, came to OSU touted as a defensive back, not an offensive player.
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</td> </tr> </tbody></table> Some have doubted the wisdom of playing Ginn on the defensive side of the ball. An injury to Ginn, perhaps tackling a rumbling running back or on the receiving end of a block down field, would deal a devastating blow to both OSU's special teams and offense, but the interest in Ginn as a defensive back persists.
OSU Head Coach Jim Tressel has been coy when asked if Ginn would make an appearance on the defensive side of the ball. Tressel has said consistently that Ginn could possibly make an appearance on defense, but most probably when the weather got cooler. It's November, it's cooler, and the fans want to know if Ginn will play defense. On Tuesday, Tressel remained noncommittal on Ginn as a defensive back when reminded of his comments that Ginn might play a little defense when the weather turned cooler.
"It was kind of hinted when the weather gets cooler?" said Tressel as if that were news to him.
"I'll defer that to Donte," said Tressel, referring to safety Donte Whitner who was also in the room.
"He sees him over there in drills, you can ask him that. If our team needs to do that to be better, you know, then -- we wouldn't do it in a normal situation. Might do it in a nickel or a dime or we're banged up back there or whatever, but Donte can tell you more about how he does."
Whitner was much more direct in his answer to the question of whether Ginn would play defense this season.
"He's been doing individual drills with the corners and covering receivers and things like that. I believe that the next week we play Northwestern, and they like a lot of spread," said Whitner.
"You could possibly see him next week against Northwestern. He's not going to take out one of the normal corners in the regular defense and put him in, but next week vs. Northwestern with all the spread and things like that Ted could possibly be in," said Whitner.
Whitner doesn't seem to think that Ginn will play defense against the Illini, but hinted strongly that Ginn could see the field against the Wildcats despite the fact that injured cornerback Tyler Everett is expected to return to action this week against Illinois. Everett's return, according to Whitner, will help, but does not make it less likely that Ginn will play against Northwestern simply because of the Wildcats' style of play.
"No, it doesn't make it less likely because even when Tyler was back he was still doing drills with the corners," said Whitner.
"You can almost be certain that you might see him in at least the dime package for sure. I'm not really sure about the nickel with Tyler being back, but the dime package next week against Northwestern, you could see him in there."
Tressel has said steadfastly that weather has played a role in the decision on how to use Ginn, but there may be one other factor in play. Ginn has already proven himself as a devastating return man, but has yet to demonstrate the same spectacular level of play at wide receiver. According to the man who coaches him as both a receiver and returner, OSU assistant Darrell Hazell, there is a reason for that.
"I think he will be a fantastic receiver a year from now. Fantastic. He will have the same capabilities as a Santonio Holmes. He just needs the work. He needs reps. He's behind at that position," said Hazell.
That, more than anything, may explain why Ginn has not appeared on defense. He's still learning to play on offense, and there is only so-much a player can assimilate at one time. Hazell ticked off the areas in which Ginn needs to improve as a receiver.
"He needs to learn how to power through people when he gets caught in jams, I think he's gotten better at that, staying low when he's being confronted by defenders.
"You can never get enough transition work at the top of the break, being to put your feet in the ground, no wasted motion, drive them back on the ball, keep the shoulders down.
"He's learning how to do those things," Hazell said.
Hazell said he is not surprised that Ginn's development as a receiver is behind his development as a returner.
"Returning is more instinctive. It gives you a chance to freelance a little bit more," Hazell said.
Ginn has those instincts that allowed him to make an immediate impact as a returner, but like so many talented athletes, has yet to learn enough about the receiver position to make the same kind of impact in that role.
"Very few guys can do that, very few," said Hazell.
"There's a lot of technical things you have to learn. It's not scheme or plays, but it's recognition sometimes, recognition of coverage, things like that," Hazell said.
Ted Ginn's role may someday expand to include defense at Ohio State, but for now, it's a pretty sure bet it will be spot duty in specific situations. He's still pretty busy mastering the wide receiver role. Asking him to master a corner role as well at the same time is probably just a little too much.
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Quote:'Special' skills of Ginn Jr. key OSU
By Jon Spencer
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COLUMBUS -- Speed not only kills, it covers up mistakes.
Ohio State's latest ride on the No. 7 cannonball express is a case in point. Ted Ginn Jr.'s 100-yard kickoff return at Minnesota last Saturday didn't exactly happen as designed.
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Technically, it was Ginn's third TD return in two weeks. He scored on a 62-yard punt return at Indiana after having a 98-yard kickoff return nullified by a personal foul committed 25 yards behind in Ginn's vapor trail.
Ginn also had a punt return wiped out by penalty against Iowa. But not even Gonzalez's screw-up could sidetrack the supersonic sophomore this time.
"I think Ted's playing in a zone," Gonzalez said. "The last few weeks, on returns, he's just been unstoppable. It seems like every time he touches (the ball), he's going to go. If he doesn't go, it's like if one little thing had happened, he would have gone.
"This is how I know how fast he really is. As soon as he faked the hand-off to me, I took maybe three steps and turned ... and he's already at the other 40. I'm thinking, how fast is this guy going? I mean, he was flying. His form is so perfect he makes me look slow."
Although Ginn gets all the acclaim, other members of the return unit deserve credit, too. He doesn't blow through the Gophers untouched without a little help from his friends.
"I'd say about 85 percent is Ted and his ability to get free and the other 15 percent is the blocks," said Santonio Holmes, modestly. "I don't credit myself a lot for blocking, but a lot of times I have a key block here or there for him to make a return.
"I feed off that a lot. If I can get a good first block right in front of him and he can get free for five extra yards, I take pride in that."
One of OSU's unsung heroes is junior Antonio Smith. He plays on all of the special units and has been praised on an almost weekly basis by the coaches for his efforts.
"It's a one-play series," Smith said of kickoffs and punts. "You've got to go as hard as you can because Ted can break one at any time. We try to get our blocks and then Ted does what he does best."
It was at the same time last year Ginn started unleashing thund- erbolts with Zeus-like regularity. He returned three punts for TDs in a four-game span as the Buckeyes finished 5-1 after a 3-3 start.
Ohio State (6-2, 4-1 Big Ten) hopes another such electrical storm is brewing. Heading into Saturday's home game with Illinois (2-6, 0-5), the Buckeyes are tied for the Big Ten lead in the loss column with Wisconsin and Penn State, two teams playing each other Saturday in Happy Valley.
"Ted is a small guy and kind of skinny, but when you see him run up the sidelines and guys can't catch him, you just feed off that energy," strong safety Donte Whit- ner said. "I'm used to it. I saw it all in high school (as teammates at Cleveland Glenville)."
It's been more of an eye-opener for wide receivers and special teams coach Darrell Hazell. He and Ginn arrived at Ohio State at the same time. In those two years, Hazell has seen Ginn return five punts for touchdowns (tying the Big Ten career mark) and Holmes take one back himself (last year at Northwestern).
Ginn is returning kickoffs for the first time this season, so the potential is there for more TDs under Hazell's watch. It could be a lot more if the diamond alignment introduced last week by Hazell deters opponents from pooch kickoffs.
Holmes and the equally speedy Gonzalez were used against Minnesota as up men on each side of Ginn to field short kicks, allowing Ginn in essence to roam center field. Asked which side he would kick it to, Hazell smiled and said, "I would probably kick it out of bounds. I think the next step is for teams to dribble it on the ground. Then we'll have to take our next step because you always want to stay a step ahead." Or in Ginn's case, countless steps ahead.


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