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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7640337/
transcript from msnbc
OLBERMANN: Friday, it was, the woman spoke Burmese, the zoo director English, the reporter Japanese. But the imagery spoke the international language of “Oh!” So we just put it on raw, so to speak. Only now, like rubberneckers long past that freeway accident, are we beginning to ask important questions. You know, like “What the?” The tiger cubs at the Yangon zoo in Myanmar were said to be having trouble feeding from bottles, so to borrow Mel Brooks‘s joke, as the 2,000-year-old man, about how he was breast-fed until he was 300, I conned a lot of ladies.
The woman is just a housewife. She stops by the zoo three times a day, 45 minutes per, and does her part for the little Tonys. There were three of them originally, but the mother killed one and refused to nurse the others, which explains the problem. But who‘s going to explain the solution?
It was just two months ago, of course, that we were told of the sexual harassment lawsuit against a gorilla. Well, against the foundation that takes care of the gorilla. Two fired handlers claimed they were asked to bare their breasts by Koko the sign-language-speaking female gorilla. Wildlife expert Jack Hannah theorized on this program that this might have been an attempt to teach Koko how to breast feed. And he even shared something that maybe he shouldn‘t a oughta oughted (ph).
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP - FEBRUARY 21, 2005)
JACK HANNA, WILDLIFE EXPERT: I remember one time, I was asking—we were breast-feeding—or we—my wife was breast-feeding our daughter, and I had chimpanzees back in 1971. And one chimpanzee of mine wasn‘t eating, and my wife was nursing our one daughter. And all I did was just look up, because I just thought of it real quickly, and that was my wife. And she said, no way, Jack. You might tell everybody. So to make a long story short, she didn‘t do it.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
OLBERMANN: So back to the Myanmar zoo and that lady, whose name is Hla Htay. Unless the “h” is silent, in which case, she‘s “Latte.” And she stops by three times a day to bring a new meaning to the name of the nutrition bar Tiger Milk.
I am joined by Bhagavan Antle (ph), an animal trainer and tiger expert from Parrot Jungle Island in Miami. Thank you again for your time tonight, sir.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Oh, thanks for having me.
OLBERMANN: So the zoo‘s explanation, the mother killed one of the cubs, so she was out. The other cubs couldn‘t handle a bottle, so that was out. But why go to somebody in the neighborhood instead of, say, you know, just an idea at random, another mother tiger?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Well, in general, tigers won‘t let any other tiger nurse on them. To even have a tiger that was lactating would be very difficult to find. But to try and take a random cub and have that cub go up to another tiger would be very dangerous. And it‘d be more likely that they would just kill those baby tigers.
OLBERMANN: Of course, that was what we understand happened with one of the three cubs in this litter. Explain that. What went wrong with the original mother tiger here?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: A lot of tigers, when they have their first and second litters, especially, are very much not mothers. They don‘t learn this, except by experience. So first-time moms, the babies will die off in the wild and in zoos. So those babies end up being pulled and have to be animals that you‘ve got to teach to be able to drink from a bottle.
Now, we do it a lot of times by doing what I‘m doing now, letting him nurse on a fingertip. They‘ll get used to sucking on a fingertip, and then you can switch the fingertip out for a bottle, just like that. And you can switch fingertip to bottle, and they‘ll be doing just fine. Now, this is a real common occurrence all over the world, where you‘re trying to raise tigers as little tiny cubs. The mom can‘t take care of them until they get a lot of experience.
OLBERMANN: But the experience that we‘re seeing from Myanmar, is that more common than we‘d think, regarding humans intervening on behalf of rare or exotic or just endangered animals in a zoo setting?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Well, I‘ve certainly heard of it taking place on a number of occasions. I heard of it taking place a number of times in Africa, where chimpanzee babies were being nursed by moms, you know, so that can take place.
OLBERMANN: But specifically to this situation, you think that there might be something about where this occurred and that it was a tiger, as opposed to some other kind of animal?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I think that the tiger‘s, you know, a very revered animal in that country and that they‘re looking out for it. And I think that they don‘t have necessarily the people with the experience to know how to really take care of that tiger, and that they were afraid that something would go wrong, you know, with the mother tiger, and if there wouldn‘t be the opportunity for those tigers to survive. And they may be very valuable animals to those guys.
OLBERMANN: So what we‘re seeing here is not—this isn‘t a sudden change in the size of the tiger you were feeding before. This is a different tiger. I just want to clarify that, in case anybody‘s just stepping in or waking up from an illness or something. You‘ve not had some sort of spatial problem with your brain.
What is it about the tigers and the feeding process that is so delicate? Why can things go so desperately wrong between the mother and the child? It‘s not a natural, automatic process?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Mother tigers have to be able to use the incredible equipment that they have, these enormous teeth. Let me give you a look at these. You‘re a good boy! Those big teeth—you‘re a good boy -- of those tigers are so lethal and have such potential to do harm, even if the mother tiger is trying to be careful when she‘s picking up babies with a set of teeth like that, they have the potential to kill the baby very easily. So the mother tigers, you know, have a very difficult task that they‘ve got to learn very carefully. And you know, this situation is a time-consuming thing for them.
OLBERMANN: So what happens with those cubs, do you suppose, in Myanmar? Do they get—do they need to be weaned at some point? What do you do? This can‘t go on—this can‘t go on until they‘re that size, can it?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: No.
(LAUGHTER)
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Those big teeth, I think, would be very painful on delicate areas.
OLBERMANN: Yes.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You‘ve got to be—it‘s something that‘s got to be switched over, you know? We even are trying to get the finger to be done or we‘re giving them a formula and trying to get them to nurse on a bottle, we are doing it over a few days‘ time. I would think those babies would be switched onto a formula quickly.
OLBERMANN: Let‘s hope so, for the sake of Ms. Hate. Animal trainer Bhagavan Antle, thanks for helping us try to make some sense out of the new breakfast of champions, and thank your friends for us, as well.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Thank you.
OLBERMANN: That‘s COUNTDOWN. Hla Htay. Thanks for being a part of it. I‘m Keith Olbermann. Good night, and good luck.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7640337/
transcript from msnbc
OLBERMANN: Friday, it was, the woman spoke Burmese, the zoo director English, the reporter Japanese. But the imagery spoke the international language of “Oh!” So we just put it on raw, so to speak. Only now, like rubberneckers long past that freeway accident, are we beginning to ask important questions. You know, like “What the?” The tiger cubs at the Yangon zoo in Myanmar were said to be having trouble feeding from bottles, so to borrow Mel Brooks‘s joke, as the 2,000-year-old man, about how he was breast-fed until he was 300, I conned a lot of ladies.
The woman is just a housewife. She stops by the zoo three times a day, 45 minutes per, and does her part for the little Tonys. There were three of them originally, but the mother killed one and refused to nurse the others, which explains the problem. But who‘s going to explain the solution?
It was just two months ago, of course, that we were told of the sexual harassment lawsuit against a gorilla. Well, against the foundation that takes care of the gorilla. Two fired handlers claimed they were asked to bare their breasts by Koko the sign-language-speaking female gorilla. Wildlife expert Jack Hannah theorized on this program that this might have been an attempt to teach Koko how to breast feed. And he even shared something that maybe he shouldn‘t a oughta oughted (ph).
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP - FEBRUARY 21, 2005)
JACK HANNA, WILDLIFE EXPERT: I remember one time, I was asking—we were breast-feeding—or we—my wife was breast-feeding our daughter, and I had chimpanzees back in 1971. And one chimpanzee of mine wasn‘t eating, and my wife was nursing our one daughter. And all I did was just look up, because I just thought of it real quickly, and that was my wife. And she said, no way, Jack. You might tell everybody. So to make a long story short, she didn‘t do it.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
OLBERMANN: So back to the Myanmar zoo and that lady, whose name is Hla Htay. Unless the “h” is silent, in which case, she‘s “Latte.” And she stops by three times a day to bring a new meaning to the name of the nutrition bar Tiger Milk.
I am joined by Bhagavan Antle (ph), an animal trainer and tiger expert from Parrot Jungle Island in Miami. Thank you again for your time tonight, sir.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Oh, thanks for having me.
OLBERMANN: So the zoo‘s explanation, the mother killed one of the cubs, so she was out. The other cubs couldn‘t handle a bottle, so that was out. But why go to somebody in the neighborhood instead of, say, you know, just an idea at random, another mother tiger?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Well, in general, tigers won‘t let any other tiger nurse on them. To even have a tiger that was lactating would be very difficult to find. But to try and take a random cub and have that cub go up to another tiger would be very dangerous. And it‘d be more likely that they would just kill those baby tigers.
OLBERMANN: Of course, that was what we understand happened with one of the three cubs in this litter. Explain that. What went wrong with the original mother tiger here?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: A lot of tigers, when they have their first and second litters, especially, are very much not mothers. They don‘t learn this, except by experience. So first-time moms, the babies will die off in the wild and in zoos. So those babies end up being pulled and have to be animals that you‘ve got to teach to be able to drink from a bottle.
Now, we do it a lot of times by doing what I‘m doing now, letting him nurse on a fingertip. They‘ll get used to sucking on a fingertip, and then you can switch the fingertip out for a bottle, just like that. And you can switch fingertip to bottle, and they‘ll be doing just fine. Now, this is a real common occurrence all over the world, where you‘re trying to raise tigers as little tiny cubs. The mom can‘t take care of them until they get a lot of experience.
OLBERMANN: But the experience that we‘re seeing from Myanmar, is that more common than we‘d think, regarding humans intervening on behalf of rare or exotic or just endangered animals in a zoo setting?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Well, I‘ve certainly heard of it taking place on a number of occasions. I heard of it taking place a number of times in Africa, where chimpanzee babies were being nursed by moms, you know, so that can take place.
OLBERMANN: But specifically to this situation, you think that there might be something about where this occurred and that it was a tiger, as opposed to some other kind of animal?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I think that the tiger‘s, you know, a very revered animal in that country and that they‘re looking out for it. And I think that they don‘t have necessarily the people with the experience to know how to really take care of that tiger, and that they were afraid that something would go wrong, you know, with the mother tiger, and if there wouldn‘t be the opportunity for those tigers to survive. And they may be very valuable animals to those guys.
OLBERMANN: So what we‘re seeing here is not—this isn‘t a sudden change in the size of the tiger you were feeding before. This is a different tiger. I just want to clarify that, in case anybody‘s just stepping in or waking up from an illness or something. You‘ve not had some sort of spatial problem with your brain.
What is it about the tigers and the feeding process that is so delicate? Why can things go so desperately wrong between the mother and the child? It‘s not a natural, automatic process?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Mother tigers have to be able to use the incredible equipment that they have, these enormous teeth. Let me give you a look at these. You‘re a good boy! Those big teeth—you‘re a good boy -- of those tigers are so lethal and have such potential to do harm, even if the mother tiger is trying to be careful when she‘s picking up babies with a set of teeth like that, they have the potential to kill the baby very easily. So the mother tigers, you know, have a very difficult task that they‘ve got to learn very carefully. And you know, this situation is a time-consuming thing for them.
OLBERMANN: So what happens with those cubs, do you suppose, in Myanmar? Do they get—do they need to be weaned at some point? What do you do? This can‘t go on—this can‘t go on until they‘re that size, can it?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: No.
(LAUGHTER)
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Those big teeth, I think, would be very painful on delicate areas.
OLBERMANN: Yes.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You‘ve got to be—it‘s something that‘s got to be switched over, you know? We even are trying to get the finger to be done or we‘re giving them a formula and trying to get them to nurse on a bottle, we are doing it over a few days‘ time. I would think those babies would be switched onto a formula quickly.
OLBERMANN: Let‘s hope so, for the sake of Ms. Hate. Animal trainer Bhagavan Antle, thanks for helping us try to make some sense out of the new breakfast of champions, and thank your friends for us, as well.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Thank you.
OLBERMANN: That‘s COUNTDOWN. Hla Htay. Thanks for being a part of it. I‘m Keith Olbermann. Good night, and good luck.