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QB1 Will Howard (Official Thread)

Will Howard did not have a good day. Something was off in his throws early and often. Might have/would have been different if Michigan's DB hadn't tackled Smith in the end zone to prevent a TD. That was soon followed by the just-short-of-a-pick-six. But he missed several throws. More than once Michigan left Henderson alone in the flat to keep three men on Smith. Will either didn't see it, felt he had enough time to see it, or was told not to throw it to Henderson.

Any of you who are more savvy on coaching know why the Bucks weren't able to take advantage of the 3 men on Smith? Of course, when you're running on 1st and 2nd down, it doesn't leave much time to discover what's going on in the passing game.

Which leads me to question 2. If Will was hurt, or couldn't hit something, was Brown ready to go? I'm still shaken by how poor the QBs looked against Mizoo.
I’m sure Brown was “ready”, meaning he knows how to run the offense. Problem is, Brown isn’t very good. His accuracy is not good (similar to Howard vs. tcun, his worst game) and he’s the slowest ‘mobile’ qb I’ve seen.
 
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That's why I want Day fired. Howard obviously was to hurt to get it done, but Day didn't have a backup ready to run the offense. Its pathectic. Remember when Saban put in Tua to replace Hurts in the national championship game? That's the balls and collective coaching it takes to win championships at this level. He has failed at this 2 years in a row.
You don't have to look elsewhere. Urban Meyer had not one, but 2 backups ready to play in 2014 and Dwayne Haskins ready to come in and drive a stake in scUM in 2019. Having no one ready to play in last year's Cotton Bowl was coaching negligence and I'm not confident any of our current backups are ready to step in this year either.
 
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You don't have to look elsewhere. Urban Meyer had not one, but 2 backups ready to play in 2014 and Dwayne Haskins ready to come in and drive a stake in scUM in 2019. Having no one ready to play in last year's Cotton Bowl was coaching negligence and I'm not confident any of our current backups are ready to step in this year either.
Day has not done a good job the last few years of getting the backup QB meaningful reps during games. There have been plenty of opportunities and he just refuses to put them in for any length of time. Even when they’re in it’s pretty vanilla.

Of course this isn’t just true of the QBs.
 
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There have been questions about the Ohio State concussion protocol.

The OSU policy on concussions is here: https://ohiostatebuckeyes.com/documents/2023/11/8/safety-osuda-concussion-policy.pdf

The relevant section reads: RECOGNITION AND DIAGNOSIS OF A CONCUSSION- Any student-athlete that experiences concussion-like symptoms will be withdrawn from practice/competition and will be evaluated by the AT and/or team physician. Under no circumstance should a student-athlete return to participation on the same calendar day if concussion is confirmed.- Upon confirmation of concussion diagnosis, the student-athlete should undergo an evaluation by the AT and/or Team Physician that consists of symptom assessment, SCAT5 evaluation, and clinical evaluation for cervical spine trauma, fractures and/or intracranial bleeding. The King-Devick Sideline Concussion Screening test will be prescribed for student-athlete at the team physicians’ discretion.

The King-Devick Sideline Concussion Screening test: The test is explained in a scientific paper and the results of 31 prior papers are studied in a meta-analysis (a study of studies). The researchers find that the...

"Rapid number naming (K-D test), a timed vision based measure that requires the integration of eye movements, number identification, demonstrates high sensitivity and specificity in distinguishing concussed athletes from controls."

The full paper can be downloaded here:
 
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There have been questions about the Ohio State concussion protocol.

The OSU policy on concussions is here: https://ohiostatebuckeyes.com/documents/2023/11/8/safety-osuda-concussion-policy.pdf

The relevant section reads: RECOGNITION AND DIAGNOSIS OF A CONCUSSION- Any student-athlete that experiences concussion-like symptoms will be withdrawn from practice/competition and will be evaluated by the AT and/or team physician. Under no circumstance should a student-athlete return to participation on the same calendar day if concussion is confirmed.- Upon confirmation of concussion diagnosis, the student-athlete should undergo an evaluation by the AT and/or Team Physician that consists of symptom assessment, SCAT5 evaluation, and clinical evaluation for cervical spine trauma, fractures and/or intracranial bleeding. The King-Devick Sideline Concussion Screening test will be prescribed for student-athlete at the team physicians’ discretion.

The King-Devick Sideline Concussion Screening test: The test is explained in a scientific paper and the results of 31 prior papers are studied in a meta-analysis (a study of studies). The researchers find that the...

"Rapid number naming (K-D test), a timed vision based measure that requires the integration of eye movements, number identification, demonstrates high sensitivity and specificity in distinguishing concussed athletes from controls."

The full paper can be downloaded here:
So what we do for our kids (granted it's Nationwide Children's ATs at the place I'm at), they have a series of questions, I want to say 32 in total, where the kids are asked various things.

If they score as low as a 1, they are taken out for precautionary reasons. So saying something like "I have a headache" and you get taken out immediately. Maybe Howard knew this and was cognizant enough to evade the questions, maybe the full screening wasn't attempted, I don't know. But he seemed to be moving in slow motion after that hit and especially after halftime.
 
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So what we do for our kids (granted it's Nationwide Children's ATs at the place I'm at), they have a series of questions, I want to say 32 in total, where the kids are asked various things.

If they score as low as a 1, they are taken out for precautionary reasons. So saying something like "I have a headache" and you get taken out immediately. Maybe Howard knew this and was cognizant enough to evade the questions, maybe the full screening wasn't attempted, I don't know. But he seemed to be moving in slow motion after that hit and especially after halftime.

I agree. The handoffs were noticeably slower.

:wink:
 
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Looking at play notes from early and mid-season and then contrasting them vs The Game.

What's incredibly eye-opening is the lack of significant progress and consistent improvement week to week from Will's decision making and ball placement. Mistakes made week 1 were mistakes made week 8, and mistakes made week 8 were made week 12/13.

I can't quite tell if it's a chicken or the egg... Perhaps a bit of both? It's indictive of his abilities and ceiling as a QB but also the coaching staff on growing him as a passer. WH came to tOSU to improve his mental and physical talents along with his NFL stock. I fear we've sort of failed him in that regard.

But he and the coaches have a playoff run to help turn that perception around and give Will a fighters chance at a draft slot.
 
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So what we do for our kids (granted it's Nationwide Children's ATs at the place I'm at), they have a series of questions, I want to say 32 in total, where the kids are asked various things.

If they score as low as a 1, they are taken out for precautionary reasons. So saying something like "I have a headache" and you get taken out immediately. Maybe Howard knew this and was cognizant enough to evade the questions, maybe the full screening wasn't attempted, I don't know. But he seemed to be moving in slow motion after that hit and especially after halftime.
I'm no expert, but it appears that they have a protocol that includes normal concussion criteria. The questions are asked at speed, observing eye movement responses. It makes it very difficult to hide a concussion. He may have had a borderline concussion and a couple of the later hits he took might have made that worse. I guess. Apparently, that test is the standard in international rugby as well.
 
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