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QB J.T. Barrett (B1G FOY, All American, Silver Football Award, 3x B1G QBOY, National Champion)

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His receivers didn't help him vs the zone. He didn't seem to even see DBs at times either. I wonder if we ever play zone in practice to run this stuff since our defensive coaches refuse to play zone also. Have to be on the same page vs zone and they certainly weren't.
 
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Systems_id said:
And most QBs aren't going to look great when they're consistently pressured. Ask Tom Brady in 2015 when the Broncos were living in the backfield all game.
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Of course they don't. But elite QBs still produce.

And Brady is a horrible example. He's had great protection for 2 years of his career. He's the greatest ever at decifering where to put the ball in 1.5 seconds, and getting it there.
 
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If he runs the ball 20+ times this weekend I see a lot of stalled drives on offense and a very close game. Need to find unconventional ways to get the ball into play-makers hands. Don't need gadget plays, just a little misdirection and innovation (screens, draws, counters).
 
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mendensa said:
If he runs the ball 20+ times this weekend I see a lot of stalled drives on offense and a very close game. Need to find unconventional ways to get the ball into play-makers hands. Don't need gadget plays, just a little misdirection and innovation (screens, draws, counters).
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Agree that JT running the ball 20 times would be a disaster. Don't think this offense runs on gadget plays though. We haven't seen many flea flickers, HB passes, or reverses. Just last week there was significant criticism about running too many bubble screens.

The initial play calling was fine. The game got out of hand when Barrett kept trying to do too much. The defense getting shredded had him thinking he needed to press and go 33 of 39 again instead of letting the game come to him naturally. Started to hesitate and pump the ball before throwing. It's up to Meyer and co. to settle him down and not let that get out of control. Instead Meyer doubled down on JT winning the game.
 
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mendensa said:
If he runs the ball 20+ times this weekend I see a lot of stalled drives on offense and a very close game. Need to find unconventional ways to get the ball into play-makers hands. Don't need gadget plays, just a little misdirection and innovation (screens, draws, counters).
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I think that a lot of the numbers with respect to QB runs are skewed by the read-option. Watch the edge defender in his runs. He was making the right read. The edge defender was coming after the RB. He read correctly and the defense then had someone with responsibility for picking up JT. Hence the high number of QB runs.

It’s exactly how you defend the read-option. Next move on the chess board is letting that edge defender take out the RB and not run the ball, but pass over the head of the defender who is responsible for JT. I am hardly the guy to draw up the play, but could see a quick roll out to show QB run to draw the defender up and free up someone coming across the formation behind the LBs for a dink pass that goes well into the secondary. It’s all about numbers, right? Read option works because of a numbers advantage. DCs figured that out and are starting to commit a LB or safety to help when JT makes the right read. That equals the numbers again. Get them back in our favor with the opening created behind the defense.

But what the fuck do I know... just an arm chair OC like the rest of us.
 
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sparcboxbuck said:
I think that a lot of the numbers with respect to QB runs are skewed by the read-option. Watch the edge defender in his runs. He was making the right read. The edge defender was coming after the RB. He read correctly and the defense then had someone with responsibility for picking up JT. Hence the high number of QB runs.

It’s exactly how you defend the read-option. Next move on the chess board is letting that edge defender take out the RB and not run the ball, but pass over the head of the defender who is responsible for JT. I am hardly the guy to draw up the play, but could see a quick roll out to show QB run to draw the defender up and free up someone coming across the formation behind the LBs for a dink pass that goes well into the secondary. It’s all about numbers, right? Read option works because of a numbers advantage. DCs figured that out and are starting to commit a LB or safety to help when JT makes the right read. That equals the numbers again. Get them back in our favor with the opening created behind the defense.

But what the fuck do I know... just an arm chair OC like the rest of us.
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I think the criticism is directed at coaches, not JT when it comes to read-option.
It's been standard for awhile now that defenses will take the RB. The QB might gain some yards -- but you get some free hits on him and he wont go as far as the RB in most cases.
I think everyone sets up now to just read the RB and take him out... it's been figured out. But we still run it a lot.
 
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kujirakira said:
I think the criticism is directed at coaches, not JT when it comes to read-option.
It's been standard for awhile now that defenses will take the RB. The QB might gain some yards -- but you get some free hits on him and he wont go as far as the RB in most cases.
I think everyone sets up now to just read the RB and take him out... it's been figured out. But we still run it a lot.
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Yup. So, time to draw up some runs over the left OT.

Dave, we’ve missed ye. :wink:
 
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