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QB Dwayne Haskins Jr. (All B1G, B1G OPOY, Silver Football, Rose Bowl MVP, R.I.P.)

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When you have a bad team it's hard to look good as rookie QB especially until you get 3 or more starts under you. I don't think Case is the future and the season is toast so either let him get his reps in this season or keep him on the bench if you're worried the team is so bad that playing him will ruin his development for the future. All in or all out, but don't expect to put him in as relief once in a while and expect miracles.
 
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Ruining him
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It's painful to watch. They give him no time with the 1s and throw him out there when the starter get hurt. All the while claiming he's not ready and they don't want to start him aka give him all the 1st team reps. You are 1-7 you have 10 days till the next game then a bye week. It'd be the perfect time to start him but the interim head coach is saying it's the cussed guys job when he comes back... Terrible terrible management
 
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I caught 17 kinds of hell here for saying we didn't have enough info on DH to call him a "generational" QB. He had a spectacular year for the Buckeyes but I still think he should've stayed at tOSU.

Yeah, yeah, he'd have come out this year with Tua, but he came out with Murray, Jones, Minshew... all currently successful starters, I think.

He may be "generational" at some point, but he'd have benefited from another year, at least, at tOSU because he's looking like a first week freshman on Lane...... while his more experienced draft class mates are doing pretty well.
 
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I caught 17 kinds of hell here for saying we didn't have enough info on DH to call him a "generational" QB. He had a spectacular year for the Buckeyes but I still think he should've stayed at tOSU.

Yeah, yeah, he'd have come out this year with Tua, but he came out with Murray, Jones, Minshew... all currently successful starters, I think.

He may be "generational" at some point, but he'd have benefited from another year, at least, at tOSU because he's looking like a first week freshman on Lane...... while his more experienced draft class mates are doing pretty well.
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I miss dings.....
 
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How about you figure out how to take victory laps against yourself first before doing so against Dwayne.
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100% newbie and longtime lurker, but something to think about when it comes to Haskins returning..... who will he throw to? Dixon, McLaurin.... gone. Mack? I dunno.

It's a little thin out there. Haskins isn't dumb. He could be looking at people who've never faced B1G coverage at tOSU or a pretty fat contract and NFL caliber receivers, even as a backup.

Look at it from his perspective. Who's going to be on the other end of that pass that he trusts?
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Hill and DH are going to stay or leave, as I see it, together. There's more risk for them without the other..... at the first sign one leaves, both are gone, IMO.

Mack is largely a crap shoot. Why would DH pin his hopes there? The same for Williams and Garrett (great recruits but no B1G experience and DH has zero incentive to "nurture new talent" in his final season.)

Victor is a helluva talent, but spotty. PSU was amazing, but he remains largely a leaper/red zone guy. Victor COULD be the guy for DH, but is he enough to make him stay? I think not.

Babb, great recruit again, had an ACL in high school, then another...... if you're DH, do you wanna go there for your last year?

Olave has what... 4 or 5 catches? He's good, but again, DH would be nuts to hitch his wagon in his draft season to an unproven talent.

It really does come down to Hill, in my mind. DH MIGHT.... MIGHT stay if Hill stays. If Hill leaves, why would he stay and roll the dice on an even dicier receiver rotation than this year?

I'm trying to look at this from DH's vantage point. He's got a career on Sunday NOW. What's in it for him to risk another year?
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BuckBuckTN said:
I caught 17 kinds of hell here for saying we didn't have enough info on DH to call him a "generational" QB. He had a spectacular year for the Buckeyes but I still think he should've stayed at tOSU.

Yeah, yeah, he'd have come out this year with Tua, but he came out with Murray, Jones, Minshew... all currently successful starters, I think.

He may be "generational" at some point, but he'd have benefited from another year, at least, at tOSU because he's looking like a first week freshman on Lane...... while his more experienced draft class mates are doing pretty well.
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Murray looked like a bust candidate over his first few starts... Running for his life, taking tons of sacks and missing throws. Once he get used to NFL speed and coverages/pressures he started looking better. It helped that his coach stopped running 10 personnel every down and brought in TEs and started playing a pro offense that included a running game. DH landed in a even more dysfunctional place than Murray and didn't get the benefit of being named the starter and getting those reps since training camp.

It's clear DH can ball out. Does it translate as well to the NFL, only time will tell, but he didn't forget how to drop dimes everywhere on the field and make reads, but he's playing at a different level that takes time to get used to the talent you are facing with NFL D. Even then you need a good coach that can scheme to get the most out of the personnel. Put Rodgers, Brees or Brady on the skins and I bet everyone starts saying they are washed and need to retire.
 
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