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Taosman

Your Cousin In New Mexxico
Normally, I could give a shit about the new thin TVs. But, after reading and hearing about the new, super plasma from Pioneer, I now have the dreaded
"Plasma Lust"! Most of you have heard about the Pioneer Kuro plasmas and how they are amazing looking. Well, get ready for something waaaay better! This from a CES review.


I'm tempted to leave this Blog with only that one word: wow. Words are hard to come by. I've been doing this for some time now, and I can't recall the last time I was entranced in a demo, sitting forward in my seat, jaw agape. Pioneer's Extreme Contrast "Concept" plasma display demo was this and more. This might be the biggest potential sea change I've seen in any product category in my years in this industry.
The blacks aren't just inky, they simply aren't there. In fact, the set isn't even there. Pioneer did something I've never seen in a flat panel demo. Pioneer displayed the working Extreme Contrast prototype along side its latest, ground breaking KURO plasmas in a room that was absolutely black. Plush black curtains, black carpet, black chairs, black, well, you get the idea.
The current KURO sets looked every bit as spectacular as one would expect. And then an image simply came out of nowhere. This new Extreme Contrast set was so black that it simply blended in with the black curtains behind it. You couldn't tell it was on. Hell, you couldn't tell it was there. And even when the other sets were on next to it, you still couldn't even see a reflection on the Extreme Caution screen.
This image was clean and natural, and punchy with deep blacks beyond anything I've seen. The demo featured some 2.35:1 material, and the black bars on the prototype made the current KUROs, which are leaps and bounds beyond any other flat panels currently on the market in that respect, look almost milky in comparison. The colors were rich and natural. It simply looked like the best plasma we've seen, just much better.
The additional depth and dimensionality from this enhanced black foundation was not just noticeable, but palpable in impact. There were 30 people in this demo, and the reaction was outright wonderment. We were seeing real magic. There is no timetable, model numbers or pricing yet on these new plasmas. I don't think the rest of the industry had gotten over the shock and awe of the KURO models on the market now, and well, the ground has been shaken again by Pioneer.
(note; I lost the linky...sorry):(
 
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Wow!
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Concept Model of Advanced Design
- 50" plasma
- nine millimeters thin
- zero bezel
 
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Dryden;1066735; said:
You can talk about the size of your plasma all you want, but as Taos has accurately mentioned, it's all about the contrast ratio. Once you go black you never go back.


i know, but 150" - damn! its 11 feet wide!

oh and the contrast ratio of the 150" panasonic hasn't been revealed yet.
 
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When you go to that large a screen, there are performance issues involving
the amount of power required. I would think something that huge would suck several households worth of electricity and need special wiring to handle demand.
So, your not just paying for the humongous screen and install.
You'll be paying for a very special wiring job to power it.
Personally, in my 20ft living room I wouldn't go bigger than a 42. I just don't like the physical presence of a bigger screen. I like furnishings in scale to my living room. I have basically a two bedroom house.
But, damn! I get excited thinking about a Kuro or Super Kuro in a 42! :tongue2:
 
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scott91575;1066933; said:
I have a new Kuro, and I love it. I have to stop looking at these new tv's before I go and buy another one (a new one next year that is)!
I've been trying to find a suitable 50" (panny preferrably) for around 900-1100... best buy has a deal where you can get the 50" 5080 kuro for about 1400-1500. Awfully hard to resist...
 
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We need a moratorium on the use of 'Panny' as a pet name for 'Panasonic.' Holy hell that's effeminate.

Pioneer? Awesome. Now that's a manly sounding word!

Panny? Puh-lease. Why not just go all the way and call it an Elton John?
 
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jwinslow;1068492; said:
I've been trying to find a suitable 50" (panny preferrably) for around 900-1100... best buy has a deal where you can get the 50" 5080 kuro for about 1400-1500. Awfully hard to resist...

When I wanted a 50" panasonic plasma, I went to several shopping sites (Streetprices.com, Shopzilla - Comparison shopping online...) and found the lowest price from an on-line store with a good reputation at every shopping site. The store I ended up at was Abe's of Maine, but the process is what I'm recommending, not that specific store (though I can tell you my experience was very good).

I paid much less that anything available at Best Buy / Circuit City.

What's more, I was able to get something from panasonic's "Business" line. These displays are just displays: no tuner, no speakers, no frills. But that's what I wanted, and I ended up getting the best 50" picture available on the market at the time for about $1000 less than a comparable unit from a brick-and-mortar. Admittedly, you can't save $1000 now unless you go to a larger screen size; but the process will nevertheless get you more screen for your money.


EDIT: fwiw, everyone who has visited my house in the past year has been floored by this TV. Regardless of what they have, they ALL say that this TV has the best picture they've ever seen.
 
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vWe need a moratorium on the use of 'Panny' as a pet name for 'Panasonic.' Holy hell that's effeminate.

Pioneer? Awesome. Now that's a manly sounding word!

Panny? Puh-lease. Why not just go all the way and call it an Elton John?
So you're saying to get the kuro? :p

Seriously though, 14/1500 is pretty tempting for that set.
 
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