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Ohio State Recruiting Under Urban Meyer (merged)

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Old track coach kicking in here. I found this article on the Urban Meyer's recruiting likes, namely multi-sport athletes. I especially liked the comments of Wayne Gretsky - by the end of winter I was tired of hockey - the demands to find one sport and play it year round - especially soccer and basketball - may not be the best answer. Read and decide for yourself: http://highschoolsportsstuff.areavoices.com/2015/01/20/one-sport-athletes/
 
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Old track coach kicking in here. I found this article on the Urban Meyer's recruiting likes, namely multi-sport athletes. I especially liked the comments of Wayne Gretsky - by the end of winter I was tired of hockey - the demands to find one sport and play it year round - especially soccer and basketball - may not be the best answer. Read and decide for yourself: http://highschoolsportsstuff.areavoices.com/2015/01/20/one-sport-athletes/
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It's funny I saw this article the other day and it was very much like something the Vanderbilt baseball coach was saying in terms of his recruiting.

Honestly I think its a case of misunderstanding causation and correlation.

If you are being recruited by OSU to play football you are an elite player/athlete and because of that athletic ability, probably play more than one sport extremely well. Playing multiple sports does not cause you to be a good enough athlete to play football for OSU (or baseball for Vandy etc)

Generally I see this argument raised as a warning on the horrors of specializing in one sport and when used that way it's lazy analysis at best and just full blown, I have a quota of shit I have to write journalism at worst.
 
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I read it and thought of my own experiences. My observation is: 1) that the decision to play one sport is often made by a parent(s) and not by the athlete 2) that the parent is acting out of desire to see their child get a scholarship.

Gotta go. back to this later
 
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cincibuck said:
I read it and thought of my own experiences. My observation is: 1) that the decision to play one sport is often made by a parent(s) and not by the athlete 2) that the parent is acting out of desire to see their child get a scholarship.

Gotta go. back to this later
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yeah, its an interesting topic

lots of POV's

look forward to discussing it as the parent of a couple of athletes myself
 
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Very interesting topic... I've also heard this generation going/getting into the NFL/NBA are the first "one sport" athletes. They are just guessing but saying that playing one sport year around for years could be contributing to all the injuries with ligaments etc. That playing a buncha sports builds different muscle groups in different ways protecting you from injury.
 
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AuTX Buckeye said:
Very interesting topic... I've also heard this generation going/getting into the NFL/NBA are the first "one sport" athletes. They are just guessing but saying that playing one sport year around for years could be contributing to all the injuries with ligaments etc. That playing a buncha sports builds different muscle groups in different ways protecting you from injury.
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That is true, the one sport = higher risk injury IF they don't train in other ways.

Most kids that are that focused on one sport, because they are really good at it, also do a lot of work with trainers/core strength and conditioning which solves that issue and then some.
 
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One of the most successful track coaches in the greater Cincinnati area talked about over-training. He claimed that too much weight (time, distance) was given to preseason conditioning and that young athletes couldn't hold that "state-meet level" conditioning level throughout a whole season.

Personally I think the more important component is mental - Gretzky talking about being glad to see the season ending, that he needed a break from his sport - I do think kids get tired mentally and need a break from the constant conditioning - season - back to conditioning grind.
 
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cincibuck said:
One of the most successful track coaches in the greater Cincinnati area talked about over-training. He claimed that too much weight (time, distance) was given to preseason conditioning and that young athletes couldn't hold that "state-meet level" conditioning level throughout a whole season.

Personally I think the more important component is mental - Gretzky talking about being glad to see the season ending, that he needed a break from his sport - I do think kids get tired mentally and need a break from the constant conditioning - season - back to conditioning grind.
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I have a bunch of kids from my sons travel baseball team that think the speed and conditioning stuff they do is the funnest stuff in the world. They have siblings that come and do it with them. Absolutely zero mental connection between that and their sport.

So I agree that mental burnout is a significant danger for kids who specialize but at the same time, like anything else, if you are aware of it and take steps to neutralize it then it's no big deal.
 
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I used to coach basketball and the football staff and I would work to get each others kids on their squads. Helped toughen up our post guys and for them it greatly helped their foot work and catching abilities. It's no wonder so many of the best TE's are basketball players....Gronkowski, Graham, Gates, Gonzalez...my goodness, I've think we've cracked the code...it's the power of the G!
 
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Always liked having athletes that had been in a variety of competitive situations. Nothing like having your football guys tested on the wrestling mat, having to shoot pressure free throws with everyone watching them in basketball, competing in individual/relay events in track. I just like seeing how players react in those moments.

Of course, if the guy is a superior athlete no matter what, I like that better.
 
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brodybuck21 said:
ludicrous speed
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wadc45 said:
Late Recruiting Flips Are the Key to Urban Meyer's Success at Ohio State
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Great article by Ben Axelrod, one of my old OSU School of Journalism comrades. Still love the Urban quote aimed at Bielema and Dantonio "You're pissed because we went after a committed guy? We got nine guys that better go do it again. A little harder next time."

As to his outstanding track record keeping recruits committed down the stretch...likely going to take a hit. I'm thinking at least one of Davis, Gibson, or Weber make the flip. I think Davis will and we keep Gibson/Weber, but we shall see. Either way, I think we would just fill any vacancy with another stud considering we have Beckner, Gustin, Hill, Prince, Arnette, etc. still on the board and with very limited room.
 
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