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NCAA eligibility - Bloom/Samardzija/Zbikowski

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osugrad21 said:
The Irish have Quinn, a Heisman frontrunner; Jeff Samardzija, a talented receiver and minor league pitcher; Darius Walker, a top-notch tailback, and Tom Zbikowski, an intimidating safety who doubles as a professional boxer.
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Do writers add this stuff because we're supposed to think that being a minor league pitcher or a boxer makes them better players, and Notre Dame a better team? Or do they think they sound smart because they know something about these players other than stats and positions they play?

Leave this stuff for the boring TV announcers to have something to talk about.
 
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Do writers add this stuff because we're supposed to think that being a minor league pitcher or a boxer makes them better players, and Notre Dame a better team? Or do they think they sound smart because they know something about these players other than stats and positions they play?

Leave this stuff for the boring TV announcers to have something to talk about.
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what i don't understand is how Sjmarjdhoweverthefuckyouspellit and ZbkWTFkindanamestartswiththreeconsonants can both be professional athletes and still play football, yet Jeremy Bloom, who was an amateur couldn't...
 
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lvbuckeye said:
what i don't understand is how Sjmarjdhoweverthefuckyouspellit and ZbkWTFkindanamestartswiththreeconsonants can both be professional athletes and still play football, yet Jeremy Bloom, who was an amateur couldn't...
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great point. That was driving me nuts thinking the same about that shit.

NCAA MUST NOT HAVE A DEAL WITH SKI BUSINESSES LIKE THEY HAVE WITH BASEBALL

Love to see how he got paid/schollie playing baseball/football for ND and that pro minor league team but, thats not a violation in senior citizen NCAA COMMITTEE rules
 
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The deal was Bloom could be pro in Skiing but couldn't take the edorsement money because the NCAA thought that he gained the money through popularity in football. The problem is all skiiers need endorsement money to pay for the stuff.
 
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lvbuckeye said:
right... and baseball players buy all their own equipment. boxing trainers work for free... it's a double standard...
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The difference is that it's equipment for their work. Samardizja is on salary for baseball, and Zbikowski gets a set salary for fighting someone. Bloom was an amateur and wasn't getting paid. He, however, had to take equipment and money from sponsors (extra benefits). I'm not saying I agree with it, because I don't, but that's just the way the NCAA works with these things.
 
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Its my guess that most baseball equipment is paid for by the team. Many ball players have had their gloves for years.

Edit: I'm not saying I necessarily agree either, but if allow Bloom to play its possibly a Pandora's Box situation.
 
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BearBuck27 said:
The difference is that it's equipment for their work. Samardizja is on salary for baseball, and Zbikowski gets a set salary for fighting someone. Bloom was an amateur and wasn't getting paid. He, however, had to take equipment and money from sponsors (extra benefits). I'm not saying I agree with it, because I don't, but that's just the way the NCAA works with these things.
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Aaaah, but Zbikowski gets paid, to some extent, based on his fame. Would he get the same payday if he weren't an ND football player? I doubt it.
 
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methomps said:
If you're pro in one sport, you're not supposed to be eligible for a scholarship in another. I wonder if Zbikowski is paying his way this year....
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Probably. There are many stories of kids that play college ball and have to pay their own way due to outside money. I'm not sure how it all works. I can't remember if it's the amount of money, amount of time, etc. that the NCAA uses (I know they can have jobs but there are limits). If I recall, wasn't there a UNLV basketball player that started his own business and made a bunch of money? Then the NCAA ruled he could not take a scholarship, yet could still play. It's really strange. What's the difference if a guy gets endorsement money, or if a guy makes a ton of money in a "business" where his fame allows him to sell more? Honestly, if a guy decided to pay Zbikowski $20k for some fight, and the fight is sponsored by *name the company* (there are sponsors all around fights, if not official sponsors), how is that different than Bloom? Essentially Zbikowski's money is just filtered. I'm not sure what sponsors were involved in the event where Zbikowski fought, but I'm sure there was some sponsorship somewhere.
 
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Anyone who is good enough to play pro sports and earn a paycheck is allowed that money. The money is the same for any athlete of comparable skill sets.

Now if Joe Blow wants to "sponsor/endorse" Athlete X (who also happens to be a star QB at some college) as a member of his tiddly-winks team, then the money is not allowed. Why should Athlete X get $50,000 for playing tiddly-winks when no one can actually earn that type of money from their tiddly-winks skills? This, of course, stinks for real sports where athletes ligitimately earn the lion share of their money from endorsements (skiing, biking, x-games, etc.). But, would you want Booster Joe Blow to give Athlete X (who also happens to be a star QB at Joe Blow's college) $50,000 for his X-Box skills? This is really just pay-for-play. That is the situation the NCAA is trying to prevent. Sucks for a select few individuals, but it prevents the wide spread abuse of fair play.
 
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