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Lebron James (Los Angeles Lakers)

BuckeyeNation27;1727762; said:
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I'm just calling out the people who think they're making these statements about what kind of person Lebron is if he does this, that, or the other......when really all it boils down to is they want him in Cleveland or else he's a jerk and he's selfish and a million other reasons why you're better off without him.

None of these "reasons" are anything other than you guys either protecting yourselves against him leaving, or pretending like you were the all knowing when he stays.

He's not turning his back on a state or anything like that.....he's looking out for #1. You say him going to NYC means he's a selfish prick who only cares about money.....I say it's a way for him to rebuild a fallen franchise. It just depends on how you want to spin it, and everybody in this thread is spinning everything in Cleveland's favor.

AND I WANT HIM TO STAY IN CLEVELAND!

Exactly, I hope he stays but he doesn't owe me anything. He didn't have to sign the extension in 2006, but he did. It didn't work out, but he put city first then he doesn't have to do it again.
 
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y0yoyoin;1727694; said:
i think he used harsh words because losing another superstar free agent to a NYC team makes people from cleveland puke...why do you think there is a fuss whenever he wears a yankees hat? people from cleveland despise NYC and vise versa....goes back to the yankees/indians...browns/jets...i know personally i would hate if he went to NYC way worse...if he goes to chicago he has to play cleveland 8 times, 4 being in cleveland....no way he does that

No offense, but people in NYC don't give a [censored] about Cleveland. NYC's rival in sports is Boston. Cleveland isn't even on the map in New Yorkers' minds. Believe me.
 
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buckeyesin07;1727823; said:
No offense, but people in NYC don't give a [censored] about Cleveland. NYC's rival in sports is Boston. Cleveland isn't even on the map in New Yorkers' minds. Believe me.
Actually contraire... folks out here like Cleveland teams... especially the Browns... outside of Pittsburgh, the Browns have a very favorable rep.. and so do the Cavs... may not be Cleveland fans, per se... but they don't dislike them either

true they hate Boston teams... but hey, don't most folks?
 
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3 things from this thread stand out to me:


  1. Bitchmade
  2. Somebody on the team nailing LeBrons mom.
  3. Shaq calling Bosch the Rupal of big men. Thats just classic.

BTW zero skin in this game other than general good will to Cavs fans (because they are generally Buckeye fans )and hope he stays. I really don't think he'd be doing The Decision thing to announce he's leaving. That said, when I think back to how much I used to enjoy the NBA and how little I think of it now the disparity is striking.
 
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NJ-Buckeye;1727824; said:
Actually contraire... folks out here like Cleveland teams... especially the Browns... outside of Pittsburgh, the Browns have a very favorable rep.. and so do the Cavs... may not be Cleveland fans, per se... but they don't dislike them either

So you're agreeing with me, then, in saying that yoyo is wrong?
 
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buckeyesin07;1727822; said:
Jeez. I said a few days ago that the Cavs are going to screw themselves by standing around twiddling their thumbs while other teams are out there trying to make things happen.

Easy there... The Cavs are trying to make things happen they just have less options. Reghi said on the radio today they're working their ass off to pull off a huge name before tomorrow although he wouldnt name it. The Cavs are certainly not just sitting there praying for Lebron to decide before they proceed.
 
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From Adam Wojanarowski at Yahoo: This is some plan they?ve hatched and some game they?re playing with those Cleveland fans who?ve been so relentlessly loyal to James. First, he marched the biggest suitors in the sport to come court him in downtown Cleveland with those pointless presentations. He wanted those people out there creating a visual public push-and-pull for him, and because James needed to be told something that probably isn?t completely true anymore: Cleveland loves him.


Well, Cleveland craves him. Love is a strong word, and it ought to be unconditional, but loving a sports hero is the most conditional kind of love there is. Only, it was different with Cleveland. He?s one of them, but you still have to wonder: Are they one of him?

James never shared that town’s angst with the Browns and Indians. He wanted winners in his life, and rooted for the Dallas Cowboys and New York Yankees. He doesn’t feel the pain of a city’s broken heart. Shaquille O’Neal(notes) leaving the Orlando Magic for the Los Angeles Lakers 14 years ago was a hard hit, but LeBron bailing on Cleveland is far more devastating on a different level.

Everyone ridicules Cleveland, makes it a butt of jokes, but LeBron James has the chance to change all of that. And even then, it has to crush Cleveland’s sporting psyche that James could still walk out. If one of our own won’t stay, what does that say to the rest of the country?


That’s the hardest part here, and that makes the possibility that James would go on national television – with those split-screen shots of stunned fans in Akron and Cleveland – and completely crush those people so impossible to believe. He couldn’t be that cold, that callous, that cunning? Or perhaps, maybe this is all a rollout – the website, the Twitter page and the infomercial – to introduce a new LeBron, a new city, to the world.



State of LeBron: Live at 9, from his ego - NBA - Yahoo! Sports
 
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aurorabuckeye13;1727831; said:
Easy there... The Cavs are trying to make things happen they just have less options. Reghi said on the radio today they're working their ass off to pull off a huge name before tomorrow although he wouldnt name it. The Cavs are certainly not just sitting there praying for Lebron to decide before they proceed.

Knicks: Sign Stoudemire
Heat: Sign Bosh
Bulls: Sign Boozer

You may be content with the Cavs "trying to make things happen" and "working their ass off" but at the end of the day, they've done nothing besides sign Juwad Williams. Will that be enough for LBJ? We'll see.
 
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buckeyesin07;1727823; said:
No offense, but people in NYC don't give a [censored] about Cleveland. NYC's rival in sports is Boston. Cleveland isn't even on the map in New Yorkers' minds. Believe me.

Having lived in Ohio, Boston, and NYC, I can vouch for this.

NYC tries to pretend they don't care about Boston, or they used to, but they do. They see NJ teams as kid brothers. Everything west of Jersey is just more Jersey or wasteland in most NYC minds until you hit the left coast, and even those teams are not seen as competitors, just other teams.

Actually, I have a random story. Gather around and sit down kids.

I went to law school with a girl who grew up in Queens. Seeing as she attended NYU she was not "dumb" in a book sense. So anyway, she didn't know that West Virginia was a state. I convinced her that it was, and then convinced her that I was messing with her and that it was a joke and of course there was no state of West Virginia. Our 3rd year of law school, I finally decided to show her that it was a state. My other study partner and I took her into a Barnes & Noble and, as fate would have it, we grabbed a historical atlas: one that showed the USA before Virginia split. I folded the book back (the western USA didn't exist yet) and showed her Virginia. "I knew it!" she said. Years later, she wrote me from Minnesota. Apparently she was made fun of for not knowing West Virginia was a state. She said that it wasn't such a bad thing, because I'm really smart and I didn't know either. LOL.

Point being: Cleveland isn't even ON THE MAP. Sports or otherwise. It is really a strange world the myopia people have here. There is a great New Yorker cover about that. . . (I think it is called "view from 5th avenue" or something.)

One more thing: My law firm hired a kid from Boise, Idaho. "He grew up right next to you!" my boss told me. *facepalm*

It is really hard to describe how very little middle america means to the average NYC person.
 
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buckeyesin07;1727826; said:
So you're agreeing with me, then, in saying that yoyo is wrong?


maybe i didnt make it clear which happens... i know people from NYC and Chicago don't give a shit about cleveland....no one does...i barely think the state of ohio does....i was arguing the fact that people from cleveland would be more upset if lebron went to NYC then if he went to chicago...and then i went on to reference the different playoff matchups with NYC which would be why cleveland hates NYC more...and that NYC thinks they can just buy anybody and anything they want from smaller cities like cleveland which the yankees do with former indians players...top this off with the fact that the knicks have said for years that lebron loves NYC and cleveland sucks, yadda yadda yadda...i didnt grow up in cleveland but cleveland is my second home before columbus even tho ive lived in columbus over 10 years...growing up near cleveland i think i can say that clevelanders would rather have lebron go to chicago then NYC...that is all
 
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buckeyesin07;1727833; said:
Knicks: Sign Stoudemire
Heat: Sign Bosh
Bulls: Sign Boozer

You may be content with the Cavs "trying to make things happen" and "working their ass off" but at the end of the day, they've done nothing besides sign Juwad Williams. Will that be enough for LBJ? We'll see.

knicks: roster even with STAT is garbage.
heat: 2 good guys and beyond garbage.
bulls: actually a legit roster, even though Rose doesn't want Lebron and nobody really meshes together.
cavs: still won 61 games last year with an idiot savant, who lacked the savant part, as the coach, and a starting lineup that played 2 games together going into the playoffs, with 2 of the top 6 in the rotation injured, and shaq coming off of a broken thumb.

bottom line is those teams needed to make big moves to even get into consideration.
 
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