Klinsmann passes on the US

[DaytonBuck]

Klinsmann out, Bradley in

Former German coach withdraws name after talks fail


J?rgen Klinsmann won't be the next coach of U.S. national team coach after all. The Associated Press is reporting the German legend withdrew his name from consideration after several months of talks failed to lead to an agreement.
Instead, a source close the negotiations tells SI.com, the U.S. Soccer Federation will name Chivas USA coach Bob Bradley as the national team coach on an interim basis, which could eventually lead to his taking the job over permanently.
Klinsmann and USSF president Sunil Gulati apparently are far apart on issues of executive control over the U.S. program, which is more of an issue than money. It was earlier reported that Klinsmann was looking for a deal of as much as $2 million a year.
Klinsmann had been the favorite to succeed Bruce Arena, who was let go in July after 71/2 years. Arena coached the American team to the World Cup quarterfinals in 2002, the best showing by the United States since 1930, but the team was eliminated in the first round this year.
A close friend of Arena, Klinsmann led Germany to the World Cup semifinals this year in his first professional coaching assignment. He lives in Newport Beach, Calif. -- a close commute to the practice facility in Carson where the Americans often train.
Bradley is the all-time winningest coach in Major League Soccer history. He is respected as a shrewd talent evaluator and was considered Gulati's top pick from the MLS ranks. In his first season as Chivas USA coach, Bradley guided the Goats to a third-place finish in the Western Conference a year after they finished in the cellar. He was named the MLS's Coach of the Year for the second time. Bradley also guided the Chicago Fire to the MLS Cup title in 1998.
The United States is scheduled to play its first game since the World Cup on Jan. 20, an exhibition against Denmark in Carson, Calif. A Feb. 7 exhibition against Mexico in the Phoenix area also has been discussed.
Two tournaments highlight next year's U.S. schedule. The Americans will defend their title at the CONCACAF Gold Cup, the championship of North and Central America and the Caribbean, to be played in six U.S. cities from June 6-24. The U.S. team also was invited to the Copa America, the championship of South America, to be played in Venezuela from June 26-July 15.

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Tough loss for the US, I think a lot of people had all their eggs in this basket

 

[23Skidoo]

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Tough loss for the US, I think a lot of people had all their eggs in this basket

Prolly had to do with MLS' control over the national team. A coach like Klinsmann wouldn't appreciate having his team virtually picked for him.
Guess I'll continue as a fan of the Dutchmen.

 

[The Man]

well they found a coach Bob Bradley.

 

[Buckeye513]

He's worked under Bruce Arena twice in his career. I'm not excited.

 

[DaytonBuck]

This is only informed speculation at this point, but it's almost certain that the split in the lengthy negotiations between Klinsmann and U.S. Soccer president Sunil Gulati came down not to money, but rather to the amount of power Klinsmann wanted to reshape the U.S. soccer program. (He made similar demands before taking the Germany job.) It's fair to deduce that Gulati, who has his own healthy ego, didn't want to grant him those powers. Whether Klinsi's demands were reasonable or not will become a lot more clear as details come out.

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Gulati seems to be a bad choice to lead US soccer right now. He's been pretty stubborn about changing U.S. soccer culture. Klinsman reshaping the U.S. soccer program probably would have been a good thing. There's worse choices than Bradley but I really think someone from outside the U.S. soccer culture is needed this time around. I'll probably be Mr. Burns age when the U.S. makes a good soccer decision. :(

 

[23Skidoo]

well they found a coach Bob Bradley.

And I'd guess it's right on par with Cleveland's hiring of Crenell.

 

[23Skidoo]

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Gulati seems to be a bad choice to lead US soccer right now. He's been pretty stubborn about changing U.S. soccer culture. Klinsman reshaping the U.S. soccer program probably would have been a good thing. There's worse choices than Bradley but I really think someone from outside the U.S. soccer culture is needed this time around. I'll probably be Mr. Burns age when the U.S. makes a good soccer decision. :(

Ding ding ding.
Bradley doesn't sound like a bad choice, just a very mediocre one.

 

[Buckeye513]

Ding ding ding.
Bradley doesn't sound like a bad choice, just a very mediocre one.

I wouldn't even call this a mediocore choice by our standards. Russia was able to land Guus Hiddink ffs. There are still guys, with international experience, that aren't complete control freaks, like Marcello Lippi and Sven Boring Eriksson that are on the market. And who do we get? Bob Bradley, the manager of an average MLS Western Conference side. He's a good college and MLS coach, but coaching hasn't been our problem in the past, it's been tactical ability. I can't see how this is an upgrade from Arena.

People wonder why Americans support countries like Italy, France, England, Germany, etc. more than the United States. It's almost like the USSF want to underachieve.

 

[DaytonBuck]

Exactly. Guus Hiddink would have been the perfect choice for the US. He's overachieved with Australia and South Korea in the World Cup. He really might even be a better canidate than Klinsman. I'm guessing that Bob Bradley has no international experience. At this point I'd take any retread from the last world cup just to get some fresh blood in there.

 

[senorbuckeye]

My understanding of the situation is that Bradley was brought in on an interim basis. I've heard six months. He is said to also be a candidate for the non-interim position as well.

 

[23Skidoo]

I wouldn't even call this a mediocore choice by our standards. Russia was able to land Guus Hiddink ffs. There are still guys, with international experience, that aren't complete control freaks, like Marcello Lippi and Sven Boring Eriksson that are on the market. And who do we get? Bob Bradley, the manager of an average MLS Western Conference side. He's a good college and MLS coach, but coaching hasn't been our problem in the past, it's been tactical ability. I can't see how this is an upgrade from Arena.

I think it's not a bad choice, because we could've ended up with Sven (god forbid), or others. I think this guy is just a maintainer until we can get a better one.
On a sidenote, I don't think Hiddink has any interest in coaching the US. I think he enjoys coaching the underdog teams in situations where he likely can do whatever he wants and isn't expected to stick around for more than 4 years at most.
As for being a "step up" from Arena -- I don't think that's ever been the issue. At least not with the fans. Arena was good, but he could only take us so far. It's time for some new blood -- on the pitch and bench both.

People wonder why Americans support countries like Italy, France, England, Germany, etc. more than the United States. It's almost like the USSF want to underachieve.

Orange invasion!!!!

 

[Buckeye513]

I think it's not a bad choice, because we could've ended up with Sven (god forbid), or others. I think this guy is just a maintainer until we can get a better one.

If he is just going to stick around for 6 months or whatever, then fine, but if the USSF plan on hiring him permanently, then I think it's a very bad choice. For a country that's supposed to have ambition, and a country that was supposed to shock the world last June, going with someone in-house, that has no international experience, just isn't a very thought-out decision.

On a sidenote, I don't think Hiddink has any interest in coaching the US. I think he enjoys coaching the underdog teams in situations where he likely can do whatever he wants and isn't expected to stick around for more than 4 years at most.

Probably not, I was just trying to make a point that better candidates were available and that the U.S. could do much better. Hiddink had already accepted the Russia job before the World Cup started, IIRC, so he was just an example.

As for being a "step up" from Arena -- I don't think that's ever been the issue. At least not with the fans. Arena was good, but he could only take us so far. It's time for some new blood -- on the pitch and bench both.

Like I said, Arena was a good coach, but a terrible tactician. And in today's international game, teams that are tactically sound usually have more success than those that think they can just show up and be rewarded a result, like Brazil. Italy wasn't the best team in the world last year, probably not the best in Europe, but Lippi had the right mind set and game plan that played to his players' strengths, which is something we haven't ever had.

It is time for some new blood, but I'd prefer that blood to be Dutch, or German, or Italian, or French, not American.

 

[Buck88]

Dang, Klinsman would've been a step up in the soccer world for the US.

 

[23Skidoo]

If he is just going to stick around for 6 months or whatever, then fine, but if the USSF plan on hiring him permanently, then I think it's a very bad choice. For a country that's supposed to have ambition, and a country that was supposed to shock the world last June, going with someone in-house, that has no international experience, just isn't a very thought-out decision.
Probably not, I was just trying to make a point that better candidates were available and that the U.S. could do much better. Hiddink had already accepted the Russia job before the World Cup started, IIRC, so he was just an example.
Like I said, Arena was a good coach, but a terrible tactician. And in today's international game, teams that are tactically sound usually have more success than those that think they can just show up and be rewarded a result, like Brazil. Italy wasn't the best team in the world last year, probably not the best in Europe, but Lippi had the right mind set and game plan that played to his players' strengths, which is something we haven't ever had.

It is time for some new blood, but I'd prefer that blood to be Dutch, or German, or Italian, or French, not American.

All fine points that I can agree with.

 

[Buckeye513]

December 15, 2006
By Steve Brenner
CARLOS QUEIROZ has emerged as the No 1 choice to become the USA?s new boss.

The Manchester United assistant is highly regarded in the States after his spell in charge of the New York Metrostars.

And the Portuguese coach is now the Yanks? top target after Jurgen Klinsmann?s wage demands KO?d his chances.

A source said: ?Carlos is the top choice. His work in helping the MLS has not been forgotten. We will do everything to get him.?

Queiroz, who has a one-year rolling contract at Old Trafford, walked out on United in 2003 to manage Real Madrid for a year.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2002390000-2006580113,00.html