Interesting Tidbit About Ohio State vs In State Opponents

[OSUBuckeye4Life]

STATE PROPERTY
By Brad Edwards, ESPN Research

After Saturday's 35-7 victory over Bowling Green, Ohio State has now won 23 straight games over teams from the state of Ohio. It's not that surprising, given that OSU doesn't have much in-state competition for recruits. What's surprising is that the last team from Ohio to beat the Buckeyes was not Cincinnati, Toledo or Miami. It wasn't even Akron, Bowling Green, Kent State or Ohio. It was Oberlin College -- now a Division III football program -- on Oct. 8, 1921.

In case you're curious, that's the second-longest active winning streak by a Division I-A program over the rest of its state. Nebraska has won 47 straight games against competition from the Cornhusker State since a 12-0 loss to Doane in 1894. That streak includes wins over such powers as Creighton, Nebraska-Kearney, Hastings and Grand Island, not to mention Lincoln High School and the Omaha YMCA. If these opponents sound ridiculous, there's a reason. Nebraska hasn't played any of them since 1924.

 

[Adam Locked]

STATE PROPERTY
By Brad Edwards, ESPN Research That streak includes wins over such powers as Creighton, Nebraska-Kearney, Hastings and Grand Island, not to mention Lincoln High School and the Omaha YMCA. If these opponents sound ridiculous, there's a reason. Nebraska hasn't played any of them since 1924.

I thought that was a joke!! YMCA? Hahaha

 

[Zurp]

STATE PROPERTY
By Brad Edwards, ESPN Research

not to mention Lincoln High School and the Omaha YMCA.

How in the hell does Nebraska get to count these as real football games? Unless Nebraska ever lost to Lincoln High School, Omaha YMCA, or some other "exhibition" game, Nebraska and the NCAA should officially count those games as "Nebraska was too afraid to play a real team."

 

[BB73]

I belive the streak is actually 29, since a 7-7 tie against Wooster in 1924.

15 victories between 1925 and 1934.

14 victories recently, starting with BG in 1992.

 

[Dryden]

I thought that was a joke!! YMCA? Hahaha

How in the hell does Nebraska get to count these as real football games? Unless Nebraska ever lost to Lincoln High School, Omaha YMCA, or some other "exhibition" game, Nebraska and the NCAA should officially count those games as "Nebraska was too afraid to play a real team."

http://www.cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/div_ia/big12/texas/opponents_records.php?teamid=236

and my all-time favorite ...

http://www.cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/div_ia/big12/texas/opponents_records.php?teamid=3208

 

[MililaniBuckeye]

Many teams played high schools, athletic clubs, military base teams (during WWII), corporate teams, etc., in the late 1800s and early 1900s because they were the only readily-available competition. Here are some of Michigan's opponents from way back:

American Medical (1904)
Ann Arbor HS (1891)
Camp Grant (1943)
Carlisle Indian School (1901)
Chicago Harvard Club (1887)
Chicago University Club (1884, 1888, 1889, 1891) Michigan is 1-3 against them
Cleveland AA (1891) Michigan lost
Detroit Industrial Team (1883)
Grand Rapids HS (1896)
Great Lakes NTS (1942, 1945)
Iowa Navy Pre-Flight (1942, 1944)
Lake Forest/Rush Medical (1895)
Michigan Military Academy (1894 twice, 1895)

 

[BuckBackHome]

All I can say is OSU is lucky they skirted Kent State this year.

 

[lvbuckeye]

I thought that was a joke!! YMCA? Hahaha

how is this a surprise? it's been fairly well Documneted that ND racked up a bunch of wins against the likes of Englewood High School, Ohio Medical, Chicago Medical, and the Physicians and Surgeons club, and the South Bend Dentist's Ascociation... likewise, M*ch*g*n racked up a bunch of wins against Case, Mount Union, Grand Rapids High, and Physicians and Surgeons Club...

now, in fairness, Ohio State also played Case a few times, but to my knowledge never scheduled a high school team or a medical club...

 

[Zurp]

Many teams played high schools, athletic clubs, military base teams (during WWII), corporate teams, etc., in the late 1800s and early 1900s because they were the only readily-available competition.

I don't think I mind that college teams played HS and YMCA teams. I wouldn't mind if Ohio State, Michigan, Notre Dame, or some other traditional power team were to play high school teams, in this century. But don't count the flippin' game. It bothers me enough that they can count wins against Division I-AA teams. If a team had 15 wins in a row against college teams, then beat a high school team, and then had 15 more wins in a row against college teams, their winning streak should be 30 games. Not 31.

 

[ScriptOhio]

Many teams played high schools, athletic clubs, military base teams (during WWII), corporate teams, etc., in the late 1800s and early 1900s because they were the only readily-available competition. Here are some of Michigan's opponents from way back:

American Medical (1904)
Ann Arbor HS (1891)
Camp Grant (1943)
Carlisle Indian School (1901)
Chicago Harvard Club (1887)
Chicago University Club (1884, 1888, 1889, 1891) Michigan is 1-3 against them
Cleveland AA (1891) Michigan lost
Detroit Industrial Team (1883)
Grand Rapids HS (1896)
Great Lakes NTS (1942, 1945)
Iowa Navy Pre-Flight (1942, 1944)
Lake Forest/Rush Medical (1895)
Michigan Military Academy (1894 twice, 1895)

Cleveland Alcoholics Anonymous , they lost to a team of drunks and winos.

 

[BB73]

how is this a surprise? it's been fairly well Documneted that ND racked up a bunch of wins against the likes of Englewood High School, Ohio Medical, Chicago Medical, and the Physicians and Surgeons club, and the South Bend Dentist's Ascociation... likewise, M*ch*g*n racked up a bunch of wins against Case, Mount Union, Grand Rapids High, and Physicians and Surgeons Club...

now, in fairness, Ohio State also played Case a few times, but to my knowledge never scheduled a high school team or a medical club...

The only tOSU game like this that stands out to me is a 42-4 vicory over the Dayton YMCA in 1892.

 

[Zurp]

The only tOSU game like this that stands out to me is a 42-4 vicory over the Dayton YMCA in 1892.

According to my "The Official Ohio State Football Encyclopedia," Ohio State has played the following teams that look to me as "odd:"

Camp Sherman
Carlisle Indians
Col. Barracks
Dayton YMCA
Fort Knox
Great Lakes
Heidelberg
Ohio Medical
17th Regiment

Feel free to cross off the ones that are really colleges.

Again, I'm not saying that teams shouldn't have scheduled these games. Nor am I saying it's necessarily wrong to schedule them, today. But I don't think that a team should count these games in their "wins" and "losses" records.

 

[Jaxbuck]

Well the Carlisle Indians had some dude named Thorpe so I'm thinking they were ok.

Also from that era I wouldn't discount any team with a military name but you just never know. Thats why I have always put much more emphasis on football played post WWII than our friends from ND and scUM do.

 

[tedginn05]

According to my "The Official Ohio State Football Encyclopedia," Ohio State has played the following teams that look to me as "odd:"

Camp Sherman
Carlisle Indians
Col. Barracks
Dayton YMCA
Fort Knox
Great Lakes
Heidelberg
Ohio Medical
17th Regiment

Feel free to cross off the ones that are really colleges.

Again, I'm not saying that teams shouldn't have scheduled these games. Nor am I saying it's necessarily wrong to schedule them, today. But I don't think that a team should count these games in their "wins" and "losses" records.

Columbus Barracks is/was what was known as Fort Hayes. Which used to be a military base near downtown Columbus. Its now an arts career center and high school.

Carlisle Indians, I'm sure they were a pretty good team at one time.

 

[BB73]

According to my "The Official Ohio State Football Encyclopedia," Ohio State has played the following teams that look to me as "odd:"

Camp Sherman
Carlisle Indians
Col. Barracks
Dayton YMCA
Fort Knox
Great Lakes
Heidelberg
Ohio Medical
17th Regiment

Feel free to cross off the ones that are really colleges.

Again, I'm not saying that teams shouldn't have scheduled these games. Nor am I saying it's necessarily wrong to schedule them, today. But I don't think that a team should count these games in their "wins" and "losses" records.

I intentionally left off Carlisle and the military schools. Carlisle was a solid team between 1900 and World War I, especially the Jim Thorpe years.

Heidelberg is a college in Tiffin.

The military schools were powers during World War II. Ohio State won the national championship in 1942, and lost their opener in 1943 to Iowa Pre-Flight. Great Lakes Naval Training Station defeated Notre Dame in late 1943, a year in which the Domers won the national championship.

Ohio Medical may belong in the 'questionable' category, but they actually beat tOSU twice (1898 and 1900), so the games weren't mismatches.

But when comparing programs, if you want to wipe out everything that occurred before 1900, or before the end of World War I, it's fine with me.