HC Ryan Day (2019 B1G Media COY)

[knuckifyoubuck]

Man oh man I wasn't even trying to troll but that got a lot of responses.

I agree with a lot of the takes in here to be honest. The 11 win argument has merit obviously but my beef is at every time we play a team with a pulse they are exactly who we thought they were and all of our previous faults that were exposed throughout the year come out at that precise moment. Please compare the rosters/coaches/resources of our opponents on our schedule to us and show me where Ryan Day is over performing.

I guess I have PTSD and need to sack up but I'm tired of steam rolling through the f****** season only to get exposed because of s*** we see week after week and the coaches don't make the changes necessary. It's frustrating as an arm chair QB. I don't recall these problems with Jim Tressel. With Urban and Day it feels like we have to lose before they make a change. I think it would be better for us to lose a game early in the year so they can make the changes and we don't have to wait until the post game presser after a playoff loss to acknowledge what we all already know and see.

As we all know, Urban never won a title with an undefeated team, it is not an easy accomplishment to pull off you need a little adversity & some magic to bring it all together. You need a '14 VT more often than not... How many Saban teams have gone undefeated? I don't know I didn't look that up but I have to think it's rare.

My other fear is that Day is all about love and therapy couches where I would really like to have that Florida Urban Meyer dog coaching our boys. Maybe we get UGA Day all year long, and if we do, I'll shut the fuck up gladly because last time I saw Day out there I admit I was impressed (last drive aside).

To compare UM and Rich Rod to Day taking over here is retarded . Although perhaps there are some similarities with the stupid ass defensive schemes forcing the round pegs into square holes. It would have been pretty amazing to see Ryan Day drive Ohio State off over the cliff the same way RR did. The one guy trying to say that Rich Rod was this established coach and Ryan Day is doing better than he did: Ryan Day stepped into Urbans program, Urbans staff, Urbans recruiters, etc. That's why Harbaugh lobbed the 3rd base comment. RR built his own shit show program and took it on the road from WVU to Ann Arbor with all his coaches, recruiters and even the office sluts who apparently shredded all the secret plays that worked accidentally on his way out the door.

I think the dude is a great quarterback coach and a great play caller but the fact is Day is learning on the job, and I have a hard time accepting that like I said earlier but it doesn't matter what I accept I'm just a rando internet poster but I will take Day learning on the fly over Urban hiring his best man to f****** our linebackers for years somebody kill me please.

Please Ryan Day shut me the fuck up. Win the whole fucking thing!

 

[knuckifyoubuck]

One more thing, I am trying to come around to Day. I'm trying to buy in. And then he says some John Cooper s*** like let's move the game.

 

[Dryden]

Ryan Day is a victim of the playoff era. Three seasons out of four have ended with an L. Of course those were two controversial semi final exits with questionable calls and a final where his best player and focus of the offense was injured on the first play of the game. The other “disappointing” season ended with a Rose Bowl win while all the notable starters opted out.

He’s lost six games in four years, three in the playoffs, and two to UM; which Harbaugh has built into the best version of their team in at least 20 years. Tressel and Meyer weren’t playing UM teams this good.

No glaring off field issues and a competitive product on the field is not a recipe for firing a successful coach whose “flaw” is he doesn’t beat Top Four teams often enough and already have three national titles in four seasons.

I think reports of Ryan Days demise are greatly exaggerated. I’m going to trust the coaches.

 

[Mike80]

Man oh man I wasn't even trying to troll but that got a lot of responses.

I agree with a lot of the takes in here to be honest. The 11 win argument has merit obviously but my beef is at every time we play a team with a pulse they are exactly who we thought they were and all of our previous faults that were exposed throughout the year come out at that precise moment. Please compare the rosters/coaches/resources of our opponents on our schedule to us and show me where Ryan Day is over performing.

I guess I have PTSD and need to sack up but I'm tired of steam rolling through the f****** season only to get exposed because of s*** we see week after week and the coaches don't make the changes necessary. It's frustrating as an arm chair QB. I don't recall these problems with Jim Tressel. With Urban and Day it feels like we have to lose before they make a change. I think it would be better for us to lose a game early in the year so they can make the changes and we don't have to wait until the post game presser after a playoff loss to acknowledge what we all already know and see.

As we all know, Urban never won a title with an undefeated team, it is not an easy accomplishment to pull off you need a little adversity & some magic to bring it all together. You need a '14 VT more often than not... How many Saban teams have gone undefeated? I don't know I didn't look that up but I have to think it's rare.

My other fear is that Day is all about love and therapy couches where I would really like to have that Florida Urban Meyer dog coaching our boys. Maybe we get UGA Day all year long, and if we do, I'll shut the fuck up gladly because last time I saw Day out there I admit I was impressed (last drive aside).

To compare UM and Rich Rod to Day taking over here is retarded . Although perhaps there are some similarities with the stupid ass defensive schemes forcing the round pegs into square holes. It would have been pretty amazing to see Ryan Day drive Ohio State off over the cliff the same way RR did. The one guy trying to say that Rich Rod was this established coach and Ryan Day is doing better than he did: Ryan Day stepped into Urbans program, Urbans staff, Urbans recruiters, etc. That's why Harbaugh lobbed the 3rd base comment. RR built his own shit show program and took it on the road from WVU to Ann Arbor with all his coaches, recruiters and even the office sluts who apparently shredded all the secret plays that worked accidentally on his way out the door.

I think the dude is a great quarterback coach and a great play caller but the fact is Day is learning on the job, and I have a hard time accepting that like I said earlier but it doesn't matter what I accept I'm just a rando internet poster but I will take Day learning on the fly over Urban hiring his best man to f****** our linebackers for years somebody kill me please.

Please Ryan Day shut me the fuck up. Win the whole fucking thing!

I think Bucknuts is more your speed....

 

[knuckifyoubuck]

Ryan Day is a victim of the playoff era. Three seasons out of four have ended with an L. Of course those were two controversial semi final exits with questionable calls and a final where his best player and focus of the offense was injured on the first play of the game. The other “disappointing” season ended with a Rose Bowl win while all the notable starters opted out.

He’s lost six games in four years, three in the playoffs, and two to UM; which Harbaugh has built into the best version of their team in at least 20 years. Tressel and Meyer weren’t playing UM teams this good.

No glaring off field issues and a competitive product on the field is not a recipe for firing a successful coach whose “flaw” is he doesn’t beat Top Four teams often enough and already have three national titles in four seasons.

I think reports of Ryan Days demise are greatly exaggerated. I’m going to trust the coaches.

Trust the coaches worked better with Tressel, I was repeating that line up until the bitter end, too, but after seeing better players behind starters, bench riders excel in the NFL and on down the list.... It's all so tiresome.

 

[knuckifyoubuck]

I think Bucknuts is more your speed....

 

[NastyNatiBuck]

Tressel and Meyer weren’t playing UM teams this good.

I will say that Meyer could've easily lost a couple of those and to his credit pulled out the win. The 2016 game was one we absolutely had no right to win and somehow did. It was clear early on that they were the better team, and we scratched and clawed our way to victory.

The 2017 game, JT is hurt in pregame and is bad, but Haskins comes in and balls out. That one easily could've gone the wrong way.

I don't think Day could've won either of those games as the coach.

 

[knuckifyoubuck]

I will say that Meyer could've easily lost a couple of those and to his credit pulled out the win. The 2016 game was one we absolutely had no right to win and somehow did. It was clear early on that they were the better team, and we scratched and clawed our way to victory.

The 2017 game, JT is hurt in pregame and is bad, but Haskins comes in and balls out. That one easily could've gone the wrong way.

I don't think Day could've won either of those games as the coach.

Also, to pretend that UM was a cupcake when Tressel drove a stake through their heart is also imaginary land.

Honestly, rereading Drydens post I agree about not getting the program in trouble and many of your other points, but Harbaugh has not built the best UM team in 20 years that is a total joke. COVID may have helped him the last couple years with his roster, but this ks not UM of early 2000s.

Again my problem is HOW we lose and no one will address what I am saying because you know I am right. The last few years have been the same thing: recognize a problem, beat the crap out of every weak team on your schedule, and then have the problem that was already recognized exposed by a team with equal or similar talent and cost us our season.

You guys can frame that up however you want as 11 win successes, best UM teams, or just 1 fluke call away.... or whatever the case may be.

It comes off as a big time cope but I don't think that is the case, and dudes: this is also not the same OSU that Tressel inherited in 2002. Urban admittedly raised the bar and I do believe Day has kept it there.

Now we just need a coach with experience. (:Lol: don't fall for the bait but I couldn't resist)

 

[Mike80]

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[Mike80]

I guess in Jimmy boys mind, Ryan Day being born on third base is justification for him being a cheater. That's why he has nothing to be "ashamed" of.

The best part is the "cheating" is stupidly minor and silly. What Jimbo sucks at is paperwork, ultimately.

 

[knuckifyoubuck]

The best part is the "cheating" is stupidly minor and silly. What Jimbo sucks at is paperwork, ultimately.

It's the irony for me. These holier than thou X*ch*g*n creeptards want to talk about Tressel still. We need to booty blast these hillbillies in November.

 

[Jaxbuck]

I mean in fairness he has more playoff appearances than Meyer did already :/ but he’s also blown it in said appearances. I’m in between worshipping him and wanting him out which I think is fine.

I was worried about his lack of experience from the beginning. What gives me hope on that front is that new skills can be learned relatively quickly (delegation for instance, holding subordinates accountable for performance, mentoring, etc etc etc) and that maybe these things are enough to push it over the top. He is an elite OC and QB guru. Best we've ever had. We are in an offense first era and with the expanded playoffs, as painful as it is to type this, The Game will have less and less impact on his post season fortunes. Maybe he can grow into the job just enough to make all that work out given how the emphasis on The Game will change.

What concerns me is that attitudes and behaviors take a long time to change in adults, if they can be changed at all. Organizations will always take on the personality of their leader and the program's personality since 2019 has been one that finds a way to come up just short when it's tough. They flinch. They are getting that from Day. He has a pattern and, as much as we all hope it changes, odds are a lot higher that he(and therefore his organization) will just repeat his pattern than all of a sudden change. That isn't just a Ryan Day thing, that's an anybody thing.

So I am not really all that excited about the new season. I am hopeful they run the table and win it all but with the schedule being tougher, an unsettled OL and new QB I am seeing more opportunities for things to get tough and, consequently, more flinching to occur than we have seen in a while.

I think odds are better than even that they lose 2 regular season games and don't get into the CFP this last year before expansion. Hope I'm wrong.

 

[Jake]

 

[ScriptOhio]

Ryan Day’s trust issues with his players, staff, and himself could sink Ohio State’s season​

There is an increasingly vocal contingent of Ohio State fans who are over Ryan Day as the school’s head football coach. They do not believe that he has the mindset, aggression, or drive to compete at the highest levels of the sport, despite his elite recruiting. I am not there yet, as I still believe that we have seen enough of that over his first four-plus seasons to know that he’s capable of it. However, he is quickly running out of time to turn that from a thing that happens only in bowl games to the thing that happens all the time.

I believe that Ryan Day is a good, decent human being who cares deeply about his players, the school, and the program; and that is valuable and important in all walks of life, but especially for a college coach. But Day has issues, serious issues, and I’m afraid that they could tank another season if they aren’t addressed incredibly soon.

Despite having the third most talented team in the country, despite having a coaching staff full of highly paid assistants (five of whom make at least $1 million annually), despite being named the best developer of quarterback talent in college football, Day doesn’t seem to trust anyone in the program that he runs, including himself.

On Tuesday of last week, the Buckeye head coach announced to the world that junior Kyle McCord would be his team’s starting quarterback for the Indiana game, but that sophomore Devin Brown would also play a significant number of snaps. The presumption was that this decision was made because the competition between the two was still too close to feel comfortable shutting the door on the idea that Brown could potentially be the best man for the job. So, since he had yet to throw a single pass in a college contest, getting Brown some game reps to see how he looked against a defense not wearing scarlet and gray would be valuable for making a final determination.

That seemed like a logical and responsible course of action, given the fact that, while IU is a conference opponent, the Hoosiers weren’t expected to truly test the Buckeyes. But guess what; they did... more or less. The first half ended with a score of just 10-3 in favor of OSU, thanks in part to Tom Allen’s triple-option, ball-control game plan; the NCAA’s new, ludicrous running-clock rules; and a largely ineffective Ohio State offense.

So, instead of getting Brown any substantive snaps in the game, he got three first-half plays — two handoffs and a third-down, quarterback run that was stuffed behind the line of scrimmage — and then he didn’t see the field again until the final series of the game when Indiana had all but given up.

So what happened? Why did the understandable and fully thought-out game plan for rotating quarterbacks get thrown out the window at the first sign of something vaguely resembling trouble? Day explained his rationale in the postgame press conference, but what it truly comes down to — in my self-appointed armchair analyst opinion — is that far too often (and far too easily), the Ohio State head coach is willing to abandon any and all plans — regardless of how well constructed and publicly discussed they might be — as soon as things get uncomfortable.

I am old enough to remember when Day openly admitted to the media that he did not get C.J. Stroud enough snaps in 2020 when he was Justin Fields’ backup, which made the transition to him starting in 2021 far more difficult than it needed to be. He said that he would learn from that and get his QB depth more action moving forward.

He did not get his QB depth more action moving forward. Last season, McCord threw 20 passes, Brown threw 0.
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[Bestbuck36]

Ryan Day’s trust issues with his players, staff, and himself could sink Ohio State’s season​

There is an increasingly vocal contingent of Ohio State fans who are over Ryan Day as the school’s head football coach. They do not believe that he has the mindset, aggression, or drive to compete at the highest levels of the sport, despite his elite recruiting. I am not there yet, as I still believe that we have seen enough of that over his first four-plus seasons to know that he’s capable of it. However, he is quickly running out of time to turn that from a thing that happens only in bowl games to the thing that happens all the time.

I believe that Ryan Day is a good, decent human being who cares deeply about his players, the school, and the program; and that is valuable and important in all walks of life, but especially for a college coach. But Day has issues, serious issues, and I’m afraid that they could tank another season if they aren’t addressed incredibly soon.

Despite having the third most talented team in the country, despite having a coaching staff full of highly paid assistants (five of whom make at least $1 million annually), despite being named the best developer of quarterback talent in college football, Day doesn’t seem to trust anyone in the program that he runs, including himself.

On Tuesday of last week, the Buckeye head coach announced to the world that junior Kyle McCord would be his team’s starting quarterback for the Indiana game, but that sophomore Devin Brown would also play a significant number of snaps. The presumption was that this decision was made because the competition between the two was still too close to feel comfortable shutting the door on the idea that Brown could potentially be the best man for the job. So, since he had yet to throw a single pass in a college contest, getting Brown some game reps to see how he looked against a defense not wearing scarlet and gray would be valuable for making a final determination.

That seemed like a logical and responsible course of action, given the fact that, while IU is a conference opponent, the Hoosiers weren’t expected to truly test the Buckeyes. But guess what; they did... more or less. The first half ended with a score of just 10-3 in favor of OSU, thanks in part to Tom Allen’s triple-option, ball-control game plan; the NCAA’s new, ludicrous running-clock rules; and a largely ineffective Ohio State offense.

So, instead of getting Brown any substantive snaps in the game, he got three first-half plays — two handoffs and a third-down, quarterback run that was stuffed behind the line of scrimmage — and then he didn’t see the field again until the final series of the game when Indiana had all but given up.

So what happened? Why did the understandable and fully thought-out game plan for rotating quarterbacks get thrown out the window at the first sign of something vaguely resembling trouble? Day explained his rationale in the postgame press conference, but what it truly comes down to — in my self-appointed armchair analyst opinion — is that far too often (and far too easily), the Ohio State head coach is willing to abandon any and all plans — regardless of how well constructed and publicly discussed they might be — as soon as things get uncomfortable.

I am old enough to remember when Day openly admitted to the media that he did not get C.J. Stroud enough snaps in 2020 when he was Justin Fields’ backup, which made the transition to him starting in 2021 far more difficult than it needed to be. He said that he would learn from that and get his QB depth more action moving forward.

He did not get his QB depth more action moving forward. Last season, McCord threw 20 passes, Brown threw 0.
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LOL, I think @Jaxbuck is writing for LGHL now. He wouldn't be alone in what this article says either.