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FSU's Bowden cracks the whip

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HOT SPRINGS, Va. - Florida State may not be at full strength against Miami on Sept. 5, but the Seminoles' linebackers will be, according to Coach Bobby Bowden.

He said LBs Ernie Sims and A.J. Nicholson will play against the Hurricanes. Sims (domestic battery and resisting arrest) and Nicholson (DUI, resisting arrest) were charged with misdemeanors over the summer. Nicholson's charges came in separate arrests.

"If it's a felony it's already decided -- you can't play. If it's a misdemeanor it's in my hands," Bowden said Monday during the annual ACC football preseason media gathering.

"Yeah, oh yeah they'll play. There's more ways to discipline than a dadgum suspension.

"Now to say that we don't discipline just because I don't suspend them so I can be like everybody else? … I'm going to handle our problems. There's more than one way to skin a cat."

FAT CHANCE: Miami coach Larry Coker has kept a close eye on junior TB Tyrone Moss' physique since spring practice ended, and he likes what he has seen -- so far.

But Coker isn't going to be patient with the weight problems that plagued Moss last year. Miami needs productivity in its running game to relieve pressure from first-year starting QB Kyle Wright.

"I'm not going to go through another season with an overweight, sluggish running back," Coker said. "I did that last year, and I'm not going to do it again."

RAISING THE BAR: Bowden initially withheld a pay raise from his offensive assistants last spring. Punishment for an unproductive season that included the lowest point total at FSU in 23 years, right?

Not quite.

"We took care of defense's first this year because we felt like they were more deserving," Bowden said. "But it wasn't as a punishment."

Bowden said he eventually went back and raised the salary of his offensive staff, including his son, offensive coordinator Jeff Bowden.

Doug Carlson


Imagine if Tressel said,
"Yeah, oh yeah they'll play. There's more ways to discipline than a dadgum suspension.

"Now to say that we don't discipline just because I don't suspend them so I can be like everybody else? … I'm going to handle our problems. There's more than one way to skin a cat."

Now imagine Tressel saying that in a southern draw... (pause for imagination sequence)... Goes down a lot easier, eh? Makes me feel warm on the inside, too...:roll2: Yeah, this article clearly shows Bowden has a hard-on for punishing his players who break the law...
 
Gee, what a surprise.

We suspend guys left and right and yet JT gets villified in some circles, while good ol' boy Bobby gets the love for using wind sprints as his sole source of punishment.

I could just see the ESPN lead in now, if Tressel made such a statement.

Having said that, however, there are plenty of Buckeye "fans" who would love JT to handle things the Bowden way. I swear Troy Smith could get caught with a corpse in his house and blood on his hands, and the biggest concern some folks would have is whether he could get out on bail for the Texas game.
 
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The best quote comes from another article linked in the Police/Legal Blotter thread.

"We've always had somebody in trouble, somebody with grades," Bowden said. "That's life. It's the way it is."
Thats quite a way to look at things. Can you imagine if JT said this? I know we shouldn't throw stones from our very fragile glass house but common.
 
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Nice to see Bowden* still decides "not to punish the team" by keeping star players from playing. Of course, the media likes his "Aw, shucks" schtick, so Bowden* really doesn't get questioned much like any other coach in the country would. Oh well, I just keep hoping he will go away...unfortunately, he never does.
 
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This just goes to show ya that Bobby Bowden has no balls and no backbone. If those were 2nd string players, their asses would be riding the pine.

If we were playing Texas as our first game, Troy Smith is on the bench the whole game, let alone starting it. Sims and Nicholson being able to PLAY in that game is a joke. Is a one game suspension at FSU only mandatory if its a felony, because obviously a misdemeanor is only extra wind sprints. Bowden's honestly scared of losing to those guys... AGAIN!!
 
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BuckTwenty said:
Sims and Nicholson being able to PLAY in that game is a joke. Is a one game suspension at FSU only mandatory if its a felony, because obviously a misdemeanor is only extra wind sprints. Bowden's honestly scared of losing to those guys... AGAIN!!
Almost makes me wanna pull for scUM south, as opposed to not caring at all because I want them BOTH to lose. :wink2:
 
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<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD class=yspsctnhdln>Bowden says troubled linebackers will play against 'Canes</TD></TR><TR><TD height=7><SPACER type="block" width="1" height="1"></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD>By BRENT KALLESTAD, Associated Press Writer
July 25, 2005

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More Photos</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>HOT SPRINGS, Va. (AP) -- Florida State linebackers Ernie Sims and A.J. Nicholson will both be in the lineup for the Sept. 5 season opener against Miami, despite their summer brushes with the law.

Florida State coach Bobby Bowden said Monday he'll handle the discipline since the legal issues are misdemeanors.

Sims was arrested following an early morning fight with his live-in girlfriend outside a university residence hall while Nicholson had a pair of run-ins with local police, including a misdemeanor DUI.

``There are more ways to discipline other than suspension,'' Bowden said at the Atlantic Coast Conference's football media kickoff. ``You've heard of pain, haven't you.''

One of Bowden's favorite punishments through the years has been making players run stadium steps for mistakes of many kinds, including those involving police. Bowden also said redshirt freshmen Xavier Lee and Drew Weatherford will be even when the quarterback competition starts next month. And unless one player clearly separates during the August workouts, Bowden said he wouldn't hesitate to play both. Aside from their legal distraction, the Seminoles also have a slew of problems to contend with as they enter Bowden's 30th year the helm.

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The season's anticipated starting quarterback, Wyatt Sexton, will miss the season while he's treated for Lyme disease.


``Who could have ever predicted Lyme disease?'' Bowden asked. ``The good news is it's something that's curable.''

Bowden said he has not yet visited Sexton, the son of Florida State assistant coach Billy Sexton.

``Until his parents say 'go by and see him,' I will not,'' the 75-year-old coach said.

The Seminoles will also be without cornerback Antonio Cromartie for the season. A first team all-conference pick a year ago, Cromartie had surgery last week after he injured his left knee during a voluntary workout earlier this month.

Cromartie also returned kickoffs as one of the team's fastest players.

Florida State also has an academic casualty.

Clifton Dickson, the team's most dominating interior defensive lineman in the spring, was declared academically ineligible and must graduate from a community college before he can be readmitted to the university.

``We've always had somebody in trouble, somebody with grades,'' Bowden said. ``That's life. It's the way it is.''

With all the turmoil, Bowden was mildly surprised writers voted the Seminoles to win the Atlantic Division of the ACC by a fairly comfortable margin. Florida State received 65 first-place votes compared to 24 for league newcomer Boston College. ``Y'all must not read the newspapers,'' he joked.
 
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I've only talked to Bobby a couple of times, but really enjoyed dealing with him. He is very charasmatic and says what he feels. But this is ridicoulous. I wouldn't throw either Sims or Nicholson off the team for misdemeanors, but both players should be sitting out at least one, if not more games.
 
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