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JCOSU86

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  • GomerBucks;1839216; said:
    Here is what I can tell you about Mike Adams. During the time that these offenses took place, his mother was laid off, his father had a stroke and his cousin (was seriously like a sister) died. His family was seriously strapped and going through MAJOR turmoil. Mike, in his case, did what he felt he had to do.

    JCOSU86, because someone lives in an affluent zip code doesn't mean that life is "Leave it to Beaver". Sweeping assumptions about why each player does what he does because of your perception of a suburb is idiotic.
    Whatever. Apparently you are the expert and I'm an idiot. Apologies. How stupid (sorrry, "idiotic") of me to assume someone who lives in arguably the richest city in Ohio might not be struggling. Must have lost my head there.

    :roll1:
     
    JCOSU86;1839230; said:
    Whatever. Apparently you are the expert and I'm an idiot. Apologies. How stupid (sorrry, "idiotic") of me to assume someone who lives in arguably the richest city in Ohio might not be struggling. Must have lost my head there.

    :roll1:

    Maybe the reason I know these things is because I know the person. Those that know me know I spent a couple seasons with the team (not as a player.)


    Now that I mention it, if you take a quick peek at my avatar, I am the guy in shorts taking snaps while Mike takes a pass rush from Cam.
     
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    GomerBucks;1839238; said:
    Maybe the reason I know these things is because I know the person. Those that know me know I spent a couple seasons with the team (not as a player.)
    Great, maybe you could have said that instead of calling names? It would have made more of an impact.
     
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    JCOSU86;1839245; said:
    Great, maybe you could have said that instead of calling names? It would have made more of an impact.

    I didn't say you were an idiot. I said that comment was idiotic. I say idiotic things all the time, I don't think I am an idiot.

    Anyway, I did react to that comment because I consider Mike a friend. Just as I could imagine you would hopefully defend a friend if someone who didn't have the facts in a situation said something based on an assumption that everyone in Dublin is swimming in $$
     
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    GomerBucks;1839216; said:
    Here is what I can tell you about Mike Adams. During the time that these offenses took place, his mother was laid off, his father had a stroke and his cousin (was seriously like a sister) died. His family was seriously strapped and going through MAJOR turmoil. Mike, in his case, did what he felt he had to do.

    JCOSU86, because someone lives in an affluent zip code doesn't mean that life is "Leave it to Beaver". Sweeping assumptions about why each player does what he does because of your perception of a suburb is idiotic.

    Besides that, It's not like the streets of Dublin are paved with gold. Go to Scioto High School one day and see some of those kids. There are parts of Dublin that have old apartments and townhouses that have very transient aspect to them, many times families that are less economically off buy a apartment in Dublin so their kids can get what they feel is a better education than if they were in Columbus public. Not saying that Dublin is a rough town, but not everyone there lives in Muirfield either
     
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    buckeyefool;1839258; said:
    Besides that, It's not like the streets of Dublin are paved with gold. Go to Scioto High School one day and see some of those kids. There are parts of Dublin that have old apartments and townhouses that have very transient aspect to them, many times families that are less economically off buy a apartment in Dublin so their kids can get what they feel is a better education than if they were in Columbus public. Not saying that Dublin is a rough town, but not everyone there lives in Muirfield either

    Amen... Take a trip down Smokey Row near Hard Rd sometime.
     
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    jimotis4heisman;1839290; said:
    anyone who actually lives on smoky near near hard would go to worthington, but point taken...

    It is right on the border... I lived in those Apt's for a year when I got out of the Marine Corps... kids who are unfortunate enough to live there went to either school.
     
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    GomerBucks;1839264; said:
    Amen... Take a trip down Smokey Row near Hard Rd sometime.
    This is an assine statement.

    There is 2 streets of condos that sell under $100K in this area - plus, it's Worthington schools and the city of Columbus. The rest of this area outside of the 2 streets is $150-$225K.

    In Dublin - in a depressed housing market - there were 550+ homes sold in 2010. Only 76 of them sold below $200K. These figures include foreclosures.

    Dublin is a very nice area, as is Worthington - which brings me to the assine part..

    Here's all of the crime reports in the last 30 days at Smokey Row & Hard Rd:
    smokeyrowcrime.jpg


    And here's the crime at 161 & 71 in North Columbus:
    ncbuscrime.jpg


    No reason to pull crime from the bottoms (west side), hilltop (west side), linden (east side), Livingston Ave (childrens hospital), over by the airport (east side) or south Columbus - which have much higher rates of crime than North Columbus does. I wonder how LA or NY looks?

    To pretend that any part of Dublin is "bad" is a joke. I'm not saying Mike Adams family is well off, but to pretend these areas are rough is an absolute joke.
     
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    ScriptOhio;1839096; said:
    I was wondering the same thing about Adams (i.e. attended Dublin Coffman). I have no idea how affluent the Adams family happens to be; however, I guess there could be some "dirt poor" people living in the Dublin school district.

    If you attend Dublin Coffman, you are not dirt poor. Different story if attended Dublin Scioto (like myself). While sure, there can be poor people in any city, I HIGHLY doubt the Adams family is on the level where Mike would need to sell his ring and pants..
     
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    Bleed S & G;1839334; said:
    And here's the crime at 161 & 71 in North Columbus:

    No reason to pull crime from the bottoms (west side), hilltop (west side), linden (east side), Livingston Ave (childrens hospital), over by the airport (east side) or south Columbus - which have much higher rates of crime than North Columbus does. I wonder how LA or NY looks?

    To pretend that any part of Dublin is "bad" is a joke. I'm not saying Mike Adams family is well off, but to pretend these areas are rough is an absolute joke.


    I don't think North Columbus has the least crime in the city. I think nowadays it challenges the Eastside for top spot in crime. That includes more than just the 161/71 area that you shown.


    But as you said, There is no such thing as a bad part of Dublin. I don't know Mike Adams family, But i'm pretty sure he didn't have to go out and do this. Worthington schools have a few areas that stretch into Columbus, For example Sharon Green apartments and a few others in that area. But if you're in Dublin schools for the time being for family is pretty well off.
     
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    Bleed S & G;1839334; said:
    This is an assine statement.

    There is 2 streets of condos that sell under $100K in this area - plus, it's Worthington schools and the city of Columbus. The rest of this area outside of the 2 streets is $150-$225K.

    In Dublin - in a depressed housing market - there were 550+ homes sold in 2010. Only 76 of them sold below $200K. These figures include foreclosures.

    Dublin is a very nice area, as is Worthington - which brings me to the assine part..

    Here's all of the crime reports in the last 30 days at Smokey Row & Hard Rd:
    smokeyrowcrime.jpg


    And here's the crime at 161 & 71 in North Columbus:
    ncbuscrime.jpg


    No reason to pull crime from the bottoms (west side), hilltop (west side), linden (east side), Livingston Ave (childrens hospital), over by the airport (east side) or south Columbus - which have much higher rates of crime than North Columbus does. I wonder how LA or NY looks?

    To pretend that any part of Dublin is "bad" is a joke. I'm not saying Mike Adams family is well off, but to pretend these areas are rough is an absolute joke.

    Good work, nice maps.. now show us the crime reports for Muirfield And Barons Court. I am sorry you assume that I think the corner of Hard & Smoky is like the corner of Harvard & Taylor. Heck, I tolerated it for a year. I did lease the place before I knew the area at all...

    My original point to that entire argument is that just because a kid came from a certain suburb, his family could not have enough need for a young man to make a mistake to try to get money for his family. Without knowing the entire situation, judgement should be reserved.

    My opinion would be much different if I didn't know the personal character of this particular young man and if he had sold his things to spend it on booze etc..
     
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    GomerBucks;1839264; said:
    Amen... Take a trip down Smokey Row near Hard Rd sometime.

    hahaha. I see your point that not everybody who goes to Dublin schools are financially set, and being from the area know that. But I don't think a trip down Smokey road is gonna make an impression on anybody. I guess you are just trying to say its not all $400,000 homes on golf course but it isn't exactly row houses either. Queensbringe BLVD is not going to be confused for Queensbridge N.Y.
     
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    Anyone who thinks that someone who had previously been very well off can't all of a sudden be seriously hit financially, to the point they are in real trouble, is flat stupid. If one parent is laid off and the other suffers a stroke, then both bread-winners (assuming both were working) are no longer bringing in income. Unemployment benefits and food stamps won't pay for the higher mortgages and other costs associated with such an area. Now, am I saying Adams is justified in what he did? Not in the slightest. I'm saying that those on this board who think that just because a family was very well off before can't quickly be stuck on the shit end of the stick financially are way off target.
     
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    MililaniBuckeye;1840466; said:
    Anyone who thinks that someone who had previously been very well off can't all of a sudden be seriously hit financially, to the point they are in real trouble, is flat stupid. If one parent is laid off and the other suffers a stroke, then both bread-winners (assuming both were working) are no longer bringing in income. Unemployment benefits and food stamps won't pay for the higher mortgages and other costs associated with such an area. Now, am I saying Adams is justified in what he did? Not in the slightest. I'm saying that those on this board who think that just because a family was very well off before can't quickly be stuck on the [censored] end of the stick financially are way off target.
    Great point, and now more than ever this is a problem in the US, as many families - far too many - were in debt that could only be supported by two working spouses. Enter health problems, divorce, death, or garden variety unemployment in a deep recession/depression, and the whole house of cards goes down.

    I do a little bankruptcy for my clients (all 7 and 13, no 11s), and you would be shocked how a brief period if financial distress can destroy what someone took decades to achieve.

    Sorry to go off topic, but Mili is right about how many supposedly affluent looking families are just about to lose everything.
     
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