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tedginn05

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Well i was argueing with another player at practice about a month ago about this. He didn't believe me that the punter can punt(or kick) the ball thru the uprights and it would be 3 points. I later found out that we were both wrong and right. The punter can do this but the ball must hit the ground. So i'm asking if anyone who has insight on this does the punter actually have to bounce the ball and kick it in mid-air or can it simply just hit the ground, the punter recover and punt it thru and it would count?


The reason this came up was because they were talking about the movie "The Longest Yard" and i made the comment(about the first movie) about the drop-kick field goal and he his reply was "Well thats just movie shit and you can't do it in real life", until a coach told him yes it can be done and is still legal. So does anybody have any more insight on this or have personaly seen it in a game?
 
Well i was argueing with another player at practice about a month ago about this. He didn't believe me that the punter can punt(or kick) the ball thru the uprights and it would be 3 points. I later found out that we were both wrong and right. The punter can do this but the ball must hit the ground. So i'm asking if anyone who has insight on this does the punter actually have to bounce the ball and kick it in mid-air or can it simply just hit the ground, the punter recover and punt it thru and it would count?


The reason this came up was because they were talking about the movie "The Longest Yard" and i made the comment(about the first movie) about the drop-kick field goal and he his reply was "Well thats just movie shit and you can't do it in real life", until a coach told him yes it can be done and is still legal. So does anybody have any more insight on this or have personaly seen it in a game?

The drop kick was pretty common 70+ years ago. It's still a rule.

Here ya go...

http://www.profootballhof.com/history/release.jsp?release_id=1481

I think the arena league added this as a 2 point option for extra points.
 
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Anyone on offense can drop kick the ball, as long as it's behind the line of scrimmage.

It's the same as a field goal or an extra point, depending on what's being attempted.

The ball mus be kicked as soon as or directly after it hits the ground and bounces, so, no, the punter can't drop it, then pick it up and punt it through. It needs to be in continuous motion.

I believe Jim McMahon was very good at drop kicking and would screw around in practice by kicking long drop kick field goals. I think he even tried to talk Ditka into letting him attemot one in a game but Ditka said "nah".

The drop kick was bigger when the ball had more of a round shape instead of the pointed shape we know today.
 
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Here's an NFL link on the drop-kick (edit - same link as above). It's still legal, but nobody's done it in an NFL game since 1937 :

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The Dropkick


Believe it or not, the dropkick remains a legal maneuver in the National Football League today. Although the dropkick has not been successfully converted on an NFL gridiron in decades, mention of it still exists in the NFL's official rule book. Rule 3, Section 8 defines the dropkick as, "a kick by a kicker who drops the ball and kicks it as, or immediately after, it touches the ground."
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Some of the legends who've been permanently honored in the Pro Football Hall of Fame were masters of the dropkick. Names like Jim Thorpe, Wilbur "Pete" Henry, and Paddy Driscoll were known to have entertained pro football crowds with their extraordinary talent of dropkicking. Albeit, some of their exploits were exaggerated but nevertheless the dropkick was an integral part of the game in the 1920s and 1930s. It was during this era that the football slightly resembled a rugby ball. Numerous rule changes affecting the shape of the ball took place during the early years of the NFL. Changes to the ball essentially ended by 1934 as it took its familiar shape of a prolate spheroid. As a result, the number of dropkicks attempted in the NFL diminished significantly in subsequent years.
"As soon as they made the ball pointier, dropkicking went out of style. They needed the ball to bounce and to bounce true," commented Bob Carroll, a leading football historian.
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In fact, it wasn't until 1963 that the league removed the category of dropkicked field goals from the record book. Driscoll shared the two major records for dropkicking when he booted fourfield goals (23, 18, 50 and 35 yards) for the Chicago Cardinals in a 19-9 win over the Columbus Tigers on October 11, 1925. That mark was equaled by the Kansas City Cowboys' Elbert Bloodgood. His four dropkicked field goals were from 35, 32, 20, and 25 yards as Kansas City edged the Duluth Eskimos, 12-7, on December 12, 1926.

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</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>Driscoll's 50-yarder was also an NFL best and matched the record-tying kick he made one year earlier in a game against the Milwaukee Badgers on September 28, 1924. The Cardinals defeated Milwaukee, 17-7.
Ray McLean of the Chicago Bears was the last player to successfully drop kick in the NFL. He converted an extra point following Ken Kavanaugh's 42-yard fumble recovery for a touchdown during the Bears' 37-9 win over the New York Giants in the 1941 NFL Championship Game. The drop kick came in the fourth quarter of the title game played on December 21, 1941.
Hall of Famer Earl "Dutch" Clark is believed to be the last player to successfully dropkick a field goal in the NFL. According to game accounts, he dropkicked a 17-yard field goal in the Detroit Lions 16-7 victory over the Chicago Cardinals on September 19, 1937.
 
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Wow!! TG05 must have turned things around. Only one red frowny face...I'll have to start paying attention to your posts now. You have obviously built some momentum...Greenies 4 U...Good Topic...
 
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a) It is a major weapon in rugby.

b) We have a place-kicker who grew up as a rugby-kicker (Pretorius).


With Huston leaving, and Pretorius basically the only kicker we have coming back. Its pretty set in stone that he will be our PK next year. I will also say that he would be about the oldest player to play at OSU. He will be 27 this time next year. He will be 30 before he leaves OSU.
 
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tedginn05 said:
Well i was argueing with another player at practice about a month ago about this. He didn't believe me that the punter can punt(or kick) the ball thru the uprights and it would be 3 points. I later found out that we were both wrong and right. The punter can do this but the ball must hit the ground. So i'm asking if anyone who has insight on this does the punter actually have to bounce the ball and kick it in mid-air or can it simply just hit the ground, the punter recover and punt it thru and it would count?


The reason this came up was because they were talking about the movie "The Longest Yard" and i made the comment(about the first movie) about the drop-kick field goal and he his reply was "Well thats just movie shit and you can't do it in real life", until a coach told him yes it can be done and is still legal. So does anybody have any more insight on this or have personaly seen it in a game?
wait youre an idiot....no way
 
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As long as we are talking about kickers, how 'bout this one. Bare-Foot Kickers? Why would you ever want to kick bare-foot?

TG05, where'd all the red faces go? :wink2:

Tomorrow, Nov. 12th is a big day in history for a bare-footed kicker.

Tony Franklin kicked a 59-yarder for the Eagles, in Dallas on a Monday night game in 1979.

In college, for Texas A&M, Franklin kicked a 65-yarder (2-inch tees were legal then). That was on Oct. 16, 1976, the same day that Ove Johansson kicked a 69-yarder (off a tee, but not barefoot) for Abilene Christian against East Texas St. in an NAIA game. That's the longest FG I'm aware off at any level.
 
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TG05, where'd all the red faces go? :wink2:

Tomorrow, Nov. 12th is a big day in history for a bare-footed kicker.

Tony Franklin kicked a 59-yarder for the Eagles, in Dallas on a Monday night game in 1979.

In college, for Texas A&M, Franklin kicked a 65-yarder (2-inch tees were legal then). That was on Oct. 16, 1976, the same day that Ove Johansson kicked a 69-yarder (off a tee, but not barefoot) for Abilene Christian against East Texas St. in an NAIA game. That's the longest FG I'm aware off at any level.

Wow this is some useless knowledge that I'll never use again (except maybe next nov.12th) but good to know anyways
 
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