ACC bid up for review?

[methomps]

From the BCS media guide:

The conferences whose champions have a guaranteed
annual berth in one of the BCS bowls are subject to review
and possible loss of that guaranteed annual berth should the
conference champion not have an average ranking of 12 or
higher over a four-year period.

Thus, over a four-year period, a conference cannot have a cumulative ranking above 47 for their champs. Everyone has been waiting for this rule to bite the BE, but what about the ACC?

2002: FSU 14
2003: FSU 7
2004: VaTech 8
2005: ???

47-14-7-8=18

If the ACC champ this year has a BCS ranking of 19 or worse, then the ACC's average for the last 4 years will be 12 or higher.

One caveat to consider is the BE-Louisville rule whereby a conference can use the BCS rating of a team in the year prior to the year the team entered the conference. However, this doesn't help the ACC as 2003 Miami and Vatech were behind FSU. Of course, if they really stretch the rule and use 2002 Miami (#1) to replace 2002 FSU (14), then the ACC escapes.

Another caveat is that review doesn't mean the ACC is in danger of losing their auto bid. They may have to make financial concessions, though.

 

[NFBuck]

I doubt it seeing how Pitt got in last year.

 

[methomps]

I doubt it seeing how Pitt got in last year.

It doesn't have any effect on the ACC bid this year. The review would happen in the offseason.

 

[NFBuck]

Gotcha. Been a long day, and my brains not comprehending all I read at this point.

 

[Bucklion]

I know nothing about this rule...but 8-4 winning just made this a lot more interesting, I assume.

 

[Buckeye_Nate]

The Orange Bowl already gave FSU the invite.

 

[sandgk]

Methomps -- That would be too hilarious.

Potentially shutting Miami, V-Tech, FSU BC and all their basketball brethren out from an automatic BCS bid based on conference play.

If this actually did happen, wouldn't the successor have to have a rank of 12 average or higher for their champion?

 

[Bucklion]

Holy crap, that will probably never happen, but would that be hilarious...Va Tech, Miami, and BC watching the Big East winner go

 

[NFBuck]

Good of them to write in a clause in case of a flaw in the system.

 

[sandgk]

The Orange Bowl already gave FSU the invite.

The question concerns the out years beyond 2005, not this bid.

FSU had a paltry 40 votes in the USA Today poll, and an implied rank of 27th before tonight.

 

[BB73]

Is it only the champion's ranking that applies?

I don't think they'll whack the ACC since Miami should be around #9 in the final BCS standings. FSU will end up between 20 and 25, but obviously they're only the champion as a result of the CCG.

 

[sandgk]

Is it only the champion's ranking that applies?

I don't think they'll whack the ACC since Miami should be around #9 in the final BCS standings. FSU will end up between 20 and 25, but obviously they're only the champion as a result of the CCG.

I think that is clear if this part of the rule takes precedence:

should the
conference champion not have an average ranking of 12

Now if the BCS wants to annoint Miami the ACC champion perhaps they should ask Free Shoes to free up the trophy

 

[BB73]

I think that is clear if this part of the rule takes precedence:



Now if the BCS wants to annoint Miami the ACC champion perhaps they should ask Free Shoes to free up the trophy

But it says, 'subject to review and possible loss'.

Since it's not cut and dry, the BCS powers will use Miami's top-10 BCS ranking to justify that the conference will continue to deserve the automatic bid.

It's all about money, and the BCS will keep the ACC as an automatic, in the same way they justified the Big East by allowing Miami's ranking as a former conference member, and Louisville's ranking as an incoming member.

 

[bucknut11]

It's all about money, and the BCS will keep the ACC as an automatic, in the same way they justified the Big East by allowing Miami's ranking as a former conference member, and Louisville's ranking as an incoming member.

Which is outrageous that they're getting away with this using both teams in the rankings. I guess it pays to have the big least commish as head of the BCS.

Perhaps the worst thing about this year's BCS is that West Virginia is going to be top 11 (helping maintain an automatic) with their best wins over L'Ville (3OT) and Maryland!! If you look at the wins they've had, it's absolutely pathetic...

 

[Zurp]

Can you imagine the hilarious lawsuit that would ensue if the BCS says that the ACC no longer gets an automatic bid? I've been saying that the BCS wouldn't be able to kick out the Big East without a pretty good courtroom battle. But with a conference that is considered to be far superior to the Big East, I think that the courtroom battle would only be multiplied.