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They dont like logic here. Trust me I have tried. If it isnt bowing down to tosu you will be hammered. The fact of the matter is we beat them while they were up and they beat us while we were down. By the way tosu congradulations on your double digit ranked recruiting class. Number 5 rivals...

Come on lets be real Simms was colorblind and a master at choking and we all know the only reason he got the start is because of daddy.

Im tired of this no matter what i say nothing will convince you otherwise that ginn and smith arent gonna run wild on us for 615 or whatever it is yall had against notre dame so ill sww you later

Show me where i posted that either team had near as much talent as you did or should of came within 3 td's?

Yes but those are both teams you should of blown out.

And in the end they had 17 points to show for it.

I see what your getting at and would accept it if they had more points against the other two good defenses they played.

No idea

By the way most of the times you crossed the 50 on us it was because of a turnover.

Once again for a astronomical 22 points do the words "ohio state will have to settle for 3 again" ring a bell?

Ok that was a rivalry game ill give you that. Now tell me what tosu did against penn state and texas offensively both top 15 defenses.

Tosu's defense was great last year im not denying that add that with the shoe and it's tough for any offense especially in the 2nd game of the year.

Im sticking with nothing both points and yardage matter im merely pointing out what tosu did against quality defenses.

All for a stunning 25 points.

Didnt Brady quinn go 29 for 45 for 286 yards and no int's? And wasnt your pass defense only ranked 43rd overall in the country? Thats far from killing. By the way Phillip Rivers have 315 yards and 4 td's against a much better 2003 buckeye defense than they will have this year?

You talk about smith turning every broken play into a first down. But did you ever notice both him and ginn were no shows against every defense they faced ranked 36th or better. Michigan only 25 points texas only 22 and penn state 10. And before you bring up notre dame remember the mighty...

I was at the scrimmage as well and mccoy looked by far better than snead so did sherrod harris too though. I like the new screen and the temporary bleachers put in and they did a good job with the border around the field.

The seats are coming in 2008 they are reconnstructing the whole north in from the pics they have shown the front of the stadium will look completely different

The seats are coming in 2008 they are reconnstructing the whole north in from the pics they have shown the front of the stadium will look completely different. By the way those seats in the picture are just temp seats if yall thought those were our actuall stadium seats. And sorry for all the...

Ha thats right you have got us figured out now........