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Dish and Directv are about the same expect for the nfl package, so all is well. I like dish better than Directv because Dish gave me a brand new $750.00 hdtv receiver for switching to their plan.

Dish Network is great. I have the hdtv package and love it.

AJ Hawk is always shown as a "tireless worker". I'm not saying that's a bad thing at all, but why do people act like he is just a hard worker and he has no athletic ability? Because he is white? I don't really get it.

Coach Tressel has stated that Ted Ginn is practicing 95% of the time at CB. And what's wrong with saying Lyons or Dukes is better suited for playing time right now in the Big Ten? Ted Ginn doesn't have the body to get much playing time as a WR right now.

I can't imagine Teddy G getting enough chances this year to be top impact. I would say Pittman, Dukes, Lyons, or Person would have the best chance to impact based on position of need.

i'm in What works for you? paypal, money order?

Yea, email me tibor. mj199999@hotmail and no i'm not michael jackson :)

Thanks, figured as much.

Anyone feel that someone won't get in without id? I've got a chance to go from a friend and just want to be sure, thanks.

It is likely they get Orton. I just would hate to see Ringer there also.

Tough, tough situation.

A rumor is ok as long as it's got some legs, I am COMPLETELY against the ripping on recruits. The way Hartline, Rob S, and Brandon Harrison were ripped over there is beyond disgusting.

Bucknuts is a sinking ship, but oh well.

I still go there from time to time so I don't want to sound hypocritical. I guess I have a major problem with the quality of the football talk and the amount of negative talk about recruits. Basically it's just not a good place anymore.

Thanks Nutty, i'm quite pleased to be back around intelligent football fans. I'm absolutely thrilled that this board doesn't allow the negative personal attacks against players.

I'm real glad to be over here. VERY nice thread about Hartline. The kid is a player and a great person, good times.