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Going around in circles with this thread. Both can probably win games. Both have shown improvment. Both have shown some leadership. Zwick needs to step up a little bit more in terms of being injury free, better throwing mechanics, and showing more confidence in games. Ok St was a good game...

Campy do more homework on OSU defense. KEY WORD. D I S C I P L I N E. They don't give up alot of points and athletic QB are usually held in check.

I'm with Yertle I don't get his logic. It seems he already eliminated Smith because he's a mobile qb and all this happy feet, reading defenses simply lame excuses.

What???? What is your point about 3 and outs?? If memory serves me right OSU was breaking records pre-Indiana with 3 and outs, OSU couldn't buy a first down. The offense was called anemic by commentators. Your dad needs to see the Mich game. What's not to trust? He played a near perfect game...

"Ive admitted several times he had a great game against michigan. My point is his happy feet killed alot of drives in the 3 games prior and I never yelled at the TV screen when we played michigan." Our defense bailed us out of that penn state game and pittman had a great game against indiana...