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One more thought. In order to be considered elite, one must have a pedigree. What I mean is you must have a tradition of winning that goes back many years and not be some Johnny Come Lately program that rises suddenly because of rich donors. There needs to be a consistency, a survival of the ups...

Made cottage pie too. Fun fact. To call it shepherd's pie it has to be made with lamb. When it's made with beef it's called cottage pie.

USC definite had some glory years and has bragging rights for overall accomplishments but other than the Cheatin' Pete years when they were kicking ass and taking names they've been a fair to middlin' program, nothing more or less.

Not hating on Oregon football, they've been pretty amazing the last 20 years but they can't win the big one. I think you need to have at least 3-5 Natties before a program can call itself elite. I remember when I lived in Oregon as a kid for 4 years, both the Ducks and Beavers were the laughing...

Just yesterday I was thinking of doing to greek leg of lamb.

@Thump why would I go to Taco Bell when I have taco Bell at home and nicer plates?

Stand tall, don't you fall... takes me back to the 70's.