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Or Terelle Pryor :)

More like every other generation...

In my mind Madaris and Caleb are different types of players...as someone else stated, OSU is probably connecting with Madaris because they are concerned about one of the other WR recruits.

Vrabel did not play with Brent Williams; Williams retired from the NFL in 1996 (when Vrabel was still at OSU).

As satisfying and cathartic as firing Gene would be for all of us...he does know where the skeletons are buried, and the last firing of a major athletic department official (Jim O'Brien) did not work out too well for OSU. I am sure his departure is being "worked out."

I think what Thad meant was that the schedule was preventing them from having as much practice as they typically would have---which, in turn, is making it more difficult for Ross to get up to speed.

True--USC might have escaped punishment because it is a private school if the Reggie Bush lawsuit never took place.

The short story regarding Bobby D was that it was one area where JT actually was being proactive and the athletic department staff undermined all that (IMHO).

Next test for Gene: Does he have the common sense to avoid showing his face at whatever ceremony OSU plans to do with Bob Knight tonight?

Doug Archie--the director of compliance.

Exactly, LF was the only (and right) choice.

Exactly, LF was the only (and right) choice.

Well it has certainly helped that the Pac 10 has been really bad during Kelly's tenure. But the point I am trying to make is that going with an unproven commodity is riskier than going with a proven commodity. A coach in waiting might very well work, but there are a lot of examples of great...

Well it has certainly helped that the Pac 10 has been really bad during Kelly's tenure. But the point I am trying to make is that going with an unproven commodity is riskier than going with a proven commodity. A coach in waiting might very well work, but there are a lot of examples of great...

Did they have another choice? (Especially if they wanted to go after Urban...)

Did they have another choice? (Especially if they wanted to go after Urban...)

I imagine Muschamp and Fisher (and Weis, and Dick LeBeau, and Wade Phillips, etc) basically fit that bill. Sometimes great coordinators are not great head coaches, and I'm not sure that Ohio State is the type of program that would take that risk.

I imagine Muschamp and Fisher (and Weis, and Dick LeBeau, and Wade Phillips, etc) basically fit that bill. Sometimes great coordinators are not great head coaches, and I'm not sure that Ohio State is the type of program that would take that risk.

Whether he has the title or not is besides the point. The question is whether we are comfortable hiring someone who has not had success as a head coach at another school.

Whether he has the title or not is besides the point. The question is whether we are comfortable hiring someone who has not had success as a head coach at another school.