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very espinish. I get it if there's game action in lieu of pregame talk but this isn't fun for anyone to watch. Especially those texas kids with no shirts on

kicking tcu tex to espnews, game will be on ABC espin2 on time

And I've been hearing all along it was buckyle that blows, who knew? Aside from the line of penn state coaches at his door

So you carry on with the debate and then say your not going to. Your perception is your reality, data be damned.

Agreed, and the run game will have the attention of the defense all week in practice. The weather makes me nervous but if we don't have Gail force winds I'm thinking 42-10, offense looking a bit better and d rebounding from wmu On an unrelated note I wish there were seperate threads for 1...

So the ol hasn't performed well and neither has cardale so the o line is a factor and cardale isn't? PROOVEN, FACTS, EVIDENCE! I would agree there are other likely more significant factors but there is absolutely nothing PROOVEN cardales play in the 3 game stretch didn't impact eze's success...

You seem to have a very liberal Definition of proven. I would expect Cardales participation had a statistically significant impact. Is it the dominant factor I don't know. My inclination would be line play but not much has changed there either. By your conclusion the only logical factor is...

What is the deal with the raccoon?

This. The sloppy ball control across the board is be biggest issue. The mis snaps and lack of fluidity on 1st and 2nd down is getting the Buckeyes into 2nd or 3rd and long which invites turnovers. Additionally it seems to be making the oline and others to be a bit indecisive. W/o "6 seconds...

He being Pryor or "the other guy"?

Successful deep passing plays or going 4 wide will get a team out of 3-4 to nickel or dime real quick.

Certainly not suggesting it's good but I wouldn't go jumping off a ledge. Improvements, some significant, need to be made to get to where the team wants to be.

Except for almost all nfl quarterbacks when a wrong route is run.

Too many penalties and sloppy ball control. No offense can consistently over come 1st and 15s 2nd and 20s especially when they're coming with the deflatating feeling of a big play coming back. This will start to click, hopefully sooner rather than later. Too much talent in field and managing team

Transitive properties work well in college fb. 5 turnovers and all around sloppy play/penalties on offense will get you beat by a lot teams. Good thing d is playing well, o will come around hopefully before it's too late

I'm guessing he was somdamned relieved when a snap actually went in his general direction he assumed the plays were basically over. Car dale has been just fine. A little rusty and not releasing as quick as he did/will. Dude is just fine

NTTAWWT.

It will. I would and I am. There is a talent disparity on BOTH sides of the ball although their d does have more experience. There will be no effort or focus degradation from the Buckeyes. I would be more nervous if last year didn't happen. If you could drive the spread down to 9 for me I'd...

Blood in the water. If this were any other mid tier team I'd be a bit nervous of complacency, but only a bit. This being a redemption game for the Buckeyes, JT, and most importantly the offensive line I'm going to go with 41-10 and the 10 is being nice.