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Thank you. This is basically my whole argument

There’s no excuses next year. He has to beat them but that’s more of a formality with the outlook of their team. Sanctions or not, Michigan’s team will be gutted by the draft and graduation and they don’t recruit at a high level. Even they expect to lose anywhere from 3-6 games next year. If we...

Totally agree. I don’t think it has to be one or the other either as a great coach should do both. All I’m saying is that he consistently wins against anyone who’s not Michigan and while that game is important for sentimental reasons, it’s not the end all be all for our ultimate goals moving...

Our running game was hit or miss again yesterday. Outside of that drive (which was good), we could not run effectively. O-line also was a problem too…QB and Oline have been our biggest weaknesses all year and it showed up again.

Yesterday he was. UM is definitely in Day’s head no doubt about it. There’s something about this game that doesn’t go well for him. But as long as he beats everyone else and doesn’t get blown out when he does lose (like Tressel and Urban were always good for), I’ll ride with him a little longer...

Different issues can arise at different times. Past two years was playing calling and defense. This year was bad QB and oline play. That first Int just can’t happen. Day didn’t throw to a covered receiver under no pressure….

Serious question: Would the “beat Michigan or else/gold pants mean more than championships ” crowd really be upset and think the program is in turmoil if in the next three years we won a natty in the playoffs, but only beat Michigan once for “the game”. Like would you still be calling for Day’s...

Again, I’m calling for Day’s job if he starts doing Cooper-esuqe things and we lose to Maryland, Mich st, and or Rutgers and have an 8-3, 9-2 record heading into Michigan. If we are consistently over 10 wins/undefeated by Michigan weekend, I’m willing to stick with him unless he is getting...

You need time. There’s literally only two coaches in modern history who have won instantly and big out the gate and we had one of them (Urban). He also wears out his welcome/deserts everywhere he goes but that’s another story. I’m confident that Day can get us over the hump. We have been...

I’m definitely not on the McCord bandwagon if you have been reading my posts lol

Again, I appreciate that perspective and as an OOS kid with midwestern roots, I know how much the “game” means to people from Ohio. But trying to separate “real” fans from fake is a slippery slope. No one is going to agree on that criteria. I will say this might be a generational/OOS thing tho...

Cooper lost to people other than Michigan all the time, including teams that had no business being on the field with us-we routinely had 3-4 loses a year. Losing to Michigan a lot was the straw that broke the camel’s back for Cooper. You can’t lose multiple games a year AND lose to Michigan...

None taken. I understand and respect that perspective. But beating your rival only goes so far, especially if it doesn’t lead to anything. For basically eternity beating Michigan was the end all be all. We hate them so much because for decades this was the defacto B10 championship game and they...

To make it clear, I’d be fine paying for championships regardless of how we get there. Of course beating TSUN makes that path easier and more satisfying. All I’m saying is that going forward, beating them is not the only path to a natty and that’s the ultimate goal for me. I have plenty of B10...

“ Playing”for championships has went very well under Day. Granted, Winning is another story. But again only a few coaches have better Track record in that department.

So we beat Georgia last year and then TCU to win the natty, you’d be worried about last yrs Michigan win? Honestly, would would you even care about this yrs loss if we won a natty…I only care that we lose to Michigan because it was, and is as today, the impediment to our larger goals. Next year...

Yes lol. I’m cool with losing to them if we win a NC/high win seasons. I really could care less. I realize people feel differently but I just want wins when it matters. I’m an OOS kid who came to OSU for the academic/athletic opportunity (much like the star players on our team), I’m not born and...

whisky would love to be us lol. Let’s not do that. We haven’t won less than 10 games since, *gasp* we had wisky’s coach in the worst season in the last 30 yrs. We are nowhere near them. IMO part of the reason McCord hasn’t progressed is because he has only looked for Marvin all year. Hence the...

Again, IMO we’d be dumping a solid 8.5 in hopes that we can get a 10, when the single pool is full of 7s at best.