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I have no idea what hoke thinks, I just know they played Akron and played terrible.

That was not the point, but I do agree.

Actually he should have lost to Akron. There is no almost lost, you win or you lose. I do like how people get all worked up over one game, and it goes both ways. A big win and some think the NC is a cake walk, a bad game win or lose and the team is falling apart. In 2002 Cincinnati...

I hope they learned something today, worst and most undeserving win I have witness. Pathetic in fact every coach should return their game check.

When all are biggest rival can talk about is one bad play DG made in a big win, makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside. Carry on, good stuff!!!!

I think the two situations are a bit different, OSU is coming off Tressel Gate, in a normal year I doubt any of them get a game, nor do I think they deserved a game. From the tape on Hyde he clearly did not punch anyone. The game is a bit different in Columbus due to past history of Tressel...

True, but all I said he has a clean record now. I never stated what you inferred above.

How Hoke or any coach handles it is their business IMO. We know what Hoke did publicly, I have no idea what he did from his comment of "it has been handled internally". Like you, I trust Hoke(Meyer) will handle these situations. So far it appears to be handled.

Besides the one game suspension what else did Hoke do? You seem to know and I would like to know. He's been keeping his nose clean since it happen.

Since frank has been good boy for a year, he has a clean record. Lets hope the kid learned a lesson. I hope all kids make good choices for any team. As for his play, we are two games into the season. Will see what happens.

If you want to talk about how over-rated I think the domes are, I would glady have that debate. I bet we agree

1:10 to end before he got rolled. His left knee looked to get tweaked in an awkward position. I agree it appeared to be a spear tackle.

Not very good, horrible

Well watch it again, his knee popped on the cut, and then he got hit. He had a defender he juked with his arm around his waist.

Really how bad or good are they then? From what I watched they were down right horrible, I am not talking about last years team. I am talking about the one who played on Saturday. Now the question is, did OSU make them look that bad or are they really that bad. IMO they are that bad, but...

A different point of view is not trolling, just because you don't agree with it, does not mean it's trolling. Miller popped his knee on the cut, he was not hit. Am I wrong?

I am not the one stirring the pot, I am saying relax it was one game against who might be the worst team in CFB in 2013. Granted nobody hit him, but this is still football. Players get hurt, it happens.

Go read Braxton's thread and this one. His toughness has been called into question He has been compared to Beanie Wells The term fragile has been used about him. Some are calling for Kenny g to start because he took down the the mighty SDSU. Those are all said by OSU fans.

So Braxton tweaks his knee a bit and some panic, it's one game. I am positive Braxton will fine, he's a Hesiman candidate and some want to bench the kid.