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You don't recall correctly, and you forget Ferrara, who probably moves back now that the OL depth is shored up. So that's 11, which is only two shy of the 13 that you guys have (by my count.)

What sepia said....mostly. I'm a UVA alum who grew up in Michigan. It's OK to not go to the school whose football team you grew up following, right? Nonsense. I am a GREAT Michigan fan. I can sing The Victors and everything.

Nuh-uh. Warms my heart :) Run-blocking was a huge weakness of ours last year. If Moses is half the mauler of his reputation, we're well on our way to fixing that.

I've followed "Moses' recruiting in general", not "Moses and Ohio State." He's mentioned wanting to take a visit there for a while, which is pretty significant by his standards, but never (to my knowledge) has he indicated OSU as the leader. OSU can't top UVA in the three factors I mentioned...

You missed the point about Coyer. Somebody mentioned, in reference to Coyer, that Tressel's policy was to not offer without a visit of some kind, and I pointed out that I don't think Moses has been to Columbus, yet he had at least a verbal offer. I don't know what makes you think OSU would...

We do that quite a bit actually - send guys off to prep school for a year. I don't think most schools do that, at least not as frequently. Seems like we have someone like that in almost every class. Sometimes it works out (Ras-I Dowling) and sometimes it doesn't (Olu Hall.) I don't know...

You can take her at her word on this one. From the UVA perspective, one thing that many UVA fans are peeved about is the admissions' office unwillingness to take just any kid that has qualified academically from the NCAA's perspective. There are a few instances of recruits being turned away or...

This is probably way outdated since Coyer's sticking with Temple and you guys have Guiton now, but UVA picked up two quarterbacks (higher-rated, too) for this class very early in the process. There was no need to offer Coyer after that.

They're just now noticing?

Please tell me you're not taking this as evidence that their class actually is better.

Ewwww....cooties. Never happen.

Mallett's gone, so we don't fumble snaps any more. Snaps don't start from a kicker's foot, so we have an easy time with them.

So it's RR's fault, except for when it helps the argument at hand to say otherwise?

Rivals premium board, so unfortunately I can't link. Someone other than the standard "friend of a friend of a friend", though. I'm pretty convinced, and to be honest I wasn't before because a lot of the talk was just coming from hopeful and overly optimistic 'Hoo fans. I suppose you'll just...

Well....there's a chance. My grandmother made it 14 months from diagnosis. But sad to say, pancreatic cancer isn't like some more treatable ones. It's a death sentence.

There aren't 21 players in MI worth offering. As I said - the only player in MI that RR didn't offer without a pretty clear and logical reason that I can see is James Jackson. xcrunner offered that he might be too small to block like RR wants, and I do appreciate the effort, but Odoms is puny...

The Cass Tech pipeline is beating out the Pahokee pipeline right now; besides, I think RR offered about 12-14 MI recruits and fewer than that many FL ones. So, yes.

Make it five for us, I forgot about Jackson.

True. MSU has gotten more recruits from MI. But my point is, whatever the recruiting situation is in MI, it's a lot closer to the Wolverine party line (RR probably barely set foot in the state while recruiting at WV, is a couple years behind in building the relationships in the state, and it's...

There's really only a few players we didn't offer. Of all the really worthwhile players in Michigan, the only one that didn't get a Michigan offer and that there isn't some kind of logical explanation that I know of (i.e. drop-back quarterback like Andrew Maxwell) is James Jackson.