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If Berry had committed armed robbery in between signing his LOI and enrolling, instead of marijuana possession, I strongly suspect the vast majority of you would be clamoring for his immediate removal from the program rather than claiming it didn't matter because it happened after he signed his...

No, I'm pointing out the silliness of claiming technicalities like "he wasn't officially enrolled yet." What if the guy'd been taking bribes from boosters and such? The school would be punished. Severity notwithstanding (I'm not even trying to make a thing of Berry) this is a guy who the...

Whoa whoa whoa....OK, I'm a little late on this, but you people grilled the shit out of RR for Pat Lazear, and of course, Michigan by extension for hiring a guy that had recruited Pat Lazear.

Which is why I think a competition committee in any system would be better than the current rankings used for any system. I think it's extremely telling, though, that not even any of the non-BCS coaches voted Utah #1 or #2 last year. Or #3 or #4 for that matter; #5 was the highest Utah was...

You guys in favor of a playoff need to find a smarter advocate than Orrin Hatch. Maybe a poo-flinging ape would help. Hatch is an idiot: RealClearSports - Articles - 12 Questions With Sen. Orrin Hatch Not only has a Cinderella never, ever, in the history of college football had a chance at...

I'm not convinced that'd be much use to VT.

Not to be the one to put the finishing touches on derailment of the thread but since the trucks are the topic of discussion now, I have to ask because I've always wondered. I know Tressel has this list of very specific stuff you can do in order to earn a helmet sticker. What does the truck...

I call Forcier a blue-chipper because of the huge number of offers he got. Florida, LSU, Auburn, Penn State, Tennessee, Nebraska - that's a blue-chip-type list, even if Rivals/Scout think he's a four-star. For Vlad, we beat out OSU and Tennessee. For LaLota, Florida, FSU, Penn State, and...

And you have.....two. Of your defensive recruits, there's this: OLB - 3; MLB - NR; DE - 44. But I'm guessing you're not worried. Henderson is taking an official to Michigan this fall. I'm not sure what basis you have for saying we have no chance, and you never know how much to read into the...

Forcier was recruited with the understanding that he'd be competing not only with two QB's with starting experience, but at least one other highly-recruited freshman too. Didn't stop him from being pretty cocky. I think you guys are reading into this what you want to read into it, which is...

None that I know of. It's a pretty old thread though :wink2:

I have news for you. It never sucks to be a Michigan fan. If one bad season is ever enough to say "it sucks to be a fan" then you (the general audience you) are too spoiled.

Wait a sec. What are Gardner, Miller, and Marvin Robinson if not blue-chip players? What are Campbell, Forcier, and Turner if not blue-chippers? Would Seantrel Henderson be blue-chip enough for you? I think you're underrating our classes at least as much as you think the Scout-boards crowd...

I know a lot of things they throw flags for.....and if late hits from Boren are one of them, then I might be looking forward to seeing him on the field as much as you guys. It doesn't seem like the sort of thing to be boasting about.

If I took a snap under center for USC, is that enough to make me a top-five Heisman candidate? Or do I have to throw a pass first?

He hits after the play? Hmmm. Don't they penalize for that?

I'm sure Tate is just destroyed by this.

I really don't agree that the wins race should be taken into account when penalizing FSU. By that logic, another school in a similar situation would have to be punished more heavily in other areas to even it up - more scholarships, say. Then you have FSU with zero wins and X scholarship...

I'm with you. I like the excitement of all the games going on at once and I like watching the teams we don't get overexposed to all year. The first weekend is the best.

In the spirit of Christmas I'll bottle it up for the week between December 25 and New Year's :wink2: