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Sorry, but pregame expectations don't mean squat when you establish a double digit lead in the 4th quarter and blow it. You gotta finish those, I don't give a damn who the opponent is.

Honestly, you're on point, there's no way that's an intended design. So disappointing to see miscommunication like that from a veteran group.

Jesus Christ, the fact that that's part of the defensive playbook, let alone got used in a game of that magnitude...staggering, and depressing

Or Harrison, or Fuller lol

God I forget about that sometimes, one of Tress's darkest moments no doubt.

I think the player development, especially in the edge, has been lacking severely for years. Also tough for me to give LJ too much credit for the Bosas and Chase. They showed flashes of brilliance from the minute they suited up. Watching Zach Harrison, Coop, and Baron actually get better at the...

Will can't throw deep.

Yep, yesterday was a diagnosis of the program from top to bottom. The program is stuck in a purgatory of performing below the talent level against elite competition. The ultimate bridesmaid.

Notre Dame and Penn State (any recent season) are not the caliber we're talking about. Day can beat really good teams, just can't beat elite ones, which they're gonna have to do if they wanna win the NC. Nothing about the game tonight makes me think he's gonna just magically fix it all of a sudden.

While I agree that some posters have gone overboard with the vitriol, there's absolutely a reason to be concerned about Day and his teams' ability to get over the hump and beat an elite team. The goal is to win titles, not be a top 5 team.

Let's stop with the 2014 comparisons, that was a young team getting its feet wet in week 2 after losing its best player (Braxton) just weeks before the season. This is a veteran team that was supposed to be generational, there are no comparisons.

That's not a defense though. That's what this group does in big games. Lotta dick tripping when the talent level is close to even.

Unfortunately I think your final paragraph is the true answer. You can bring as many starters back as you want, but when they're not elite, it's not gonna make a difference.

I'm usually more of an optimist but it's less so this game in particular and moreso the trend it represents. This set of players and coaches have legitimately never won a big game at Ohio State, this was supposed to be the year it all came together and it's just more of the same. All hype, half...

We're not winning shit this year guys, another year, all the sizzle, none of the steak. It's time to admit it, this is an underachieving program and has been since 2015

If you're waiting for another LB as fast as Shazier, I got some news for ya

2016 was terrific as well

Nobody consistently underperforms in relation to their talent level like Ohio State, it's incredibly frustrating.

Defense with a shit effort tonight, not winning the Big Ten, let alone a national title of this is their best.

The competition level is relevant but this isn't the world beater defense we thought it was.