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Well, I'm not arguing the Freeh Report's conclusions were wrong --- I am arguing PSU wasn't treated fairly by the NCAA. IMO, mutually exclusive arguments.
Sure, of course I'm assuming some stuff.
Is what it is: Freeh and the NCAA were communicating from December 2011 - June 2012. Given that the NCAA wasn't Freeh's client, and given that the NCAA never admitted this prior to it coming out-in-court, people will speculate as to why?. Fair enough...
Yep. DelawareBuck and I ought to meet somewhere (perhaps the outlet malls on I-71, which are about half-way between Cincinnati and Delaware, assuming it's Delaware, OH) and just chat this over in-person vs. over the board. :biggrin:
Sure --- Freeh's scope was looking at only Sandusky related. Let's talk about the NCAA's "scope." Don't they want to make as strong a case as possible before coming down with penalties? Attaching a few actual NCAA violations certainly could not have hurt things. Especially given that they...
Louis Freeh and the NCAA were in frequent communication with each other in the November 2011 - June 2012 time frame. See link below.
http://espn.go.com/espn/otl/story/_/id/11863293/court-documents-indicate-ncaa-freeh-investigators-worked-together-penn-state-nittany-lions-investigation...
To be clear, which of these 2 are you arguing --- "they deserved no leniency" or "they didn't deserve a chance to advocate for leniency."?
It becomes a philosophical argument, but I agree (and yes, to state for the 10th time, the NCAA is not the criminal justice system) with what our criminal...
As I said above --- I'm sure Emmert would admit (in a candid moment) that he would have preferred to also attach an actual NCAA violation to the consent decree, as opposed to solely relying on "Bylaw 10.1." PSU 2012 was the first (and still only) time in NCAA history they have handed down...
Per his own C.V., Spanier was on the NCAA Executive Committee from 1997 to 2001. Chair of the NCAA D-1 Board of Directors from 1998 to 2001. I'm not sure Spanier was ever on the NCAA "Committee on Infractions", although I admittedly may be incorrect on that one...
Negotiate is probably the wrong word in my post --- "advocate for themselves" is a better phrase. I know the NCAA is not our criminal justice system, but all "defendants" should be able to "advocate for themselves" during the punishment phase, IMO.
It was TEN DAYS between Freeh Report release...
I still can't believe Lubrano posted that --- it was at like 10:00 PM on a sleepy Wednesday evening, so not during a high traffic period. He outed himself as both (a) a leaker and (b) a spinner.
That's a guy who is selling himself as a seeker of "truth." Uh huh.
Erickson accepted the consent decree because he had no room to negotiate --- the NCAA basically said "sign this or else we shoot this death penalty gun, and you have to decide now." In that case, you eat the "lesser" of the 2 "shit sandwiches."
I have no idea what you mean by "the evidence...
Freeh said that it was "under-staffed." It definitely existed. The word "toothless" doesn't appear in the Freeh Report, nor does any other similar word, at least in connection to anything "compliance department" related. So I'm still not sure what you're referring to.
Call me a cynic, but...
Not sure what you're talking about, but PSU had a compliance department prior to November 2011 (although in Freeh's opinion it was under-staffed) --- and there was nothing in Freeh's report that indicated the department was violating NCAA rules.
I have no doubt that if the department WAS in...
I pay my taxes, and I am currently (I think :biggrin: ) in good standing with the IRS. But if I go out tonight and murder somebody and then turn myself into Cincinnati police admitting the murder I committed, I shall be punished.
But it won't be by the IRS. The IRS does what they do, the...
Well, there were other options.
For instance, the NCAA always had an option of saying "our organization's mission statement is to govern competition in a fair, safe, equitable and sportsmanlike manner, and to integrate intercollegiate athletics into higher education so that the educational...
Well, it was of course nebulous as to whether, via a reading of the NCAA Constitution, Penn State was truly "eligible" for the "death penalty."
The "choice" --- again, IF this "choice" was actually given --- is more accurately described as:
(1) sign this consent decree, or
(2) we're giving...