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No one knows the events that took place other than those that were there, but there is never, ever a reason to get out of control in front of a cop. He's lucky as hell there is no depth at CB, otherwise he could be buried and never heard from again. If JT Turner takes care of business, he could...

Update... http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/recruiting/tracker/player?page=onthetrail&recruitId=81142

It is behind a paywall, but Gardner was ranked the #1 QB overall at the Elite 11 camp this week. Elite 11: Ranking the quarterbacks I'd look for his ranking to go up pretty high when Rivals revises their rankings next month.

Yes, definitely. Kid looks like a solid player. I was kinda hoping UM would offer him. Good luck to the kid though.

Isn't he an OLB? Kind of a position that isn't of need.

Yes, she's needed a new hairdo for about two decades.

Hahahaha:highfive:

Okay, slight change. OSU has to win by 22 or more for you to win, per the original bet. (The guy said something like UM won't get within 21). Sound good? I like the Seal of Officialtude!

Haha, thanks for the kind words. Ummm, yeah, what would you want if UM loses by more than 21?

Yeah, I know. I might be cool with that. I'd wanna see a couple games before that's finalized though. Bookmark this and in September we'll come back to it.

No problem. Good stuff. Could you actually rep me that much? Isn't there a limit? So, 21 pts in 2009, 21 pts in 2010, and 14 in 2011. Talk about a long-term bet.

Yeah, I know, what happened?

You want to put a wager on that?

Agreed completely. I love me a great defense. Anyway, even though RR seems to be concentrating on the offense in his recruiting, the defensive side is showing some signs of being a good class. I think quite a few recruits are waiting to see how '09 turns out.

I agree that the Toledo fiasco should never, ever happen. The defense that was left, at least the front 7, were good enough, but they got killed by that UM offense. The defense was on the field way too long, and just wore out. That doesn't mean the structure is messed up. Maybe it means it was...

According to mgoblog:

I understand a lot of you on here are going to be irrational when it comes to UM, but as goblue15 said, just because two players haven't fit in, now the entire structure at UM is f'ed up? There will also be players that just don't fit, which is why you see so many transfers every year from a lot...

U-M will be 'tough to beat' in recruitment of Florida CB Tony Grimes | detnews.com | The Detroit News

And there have been multiple articles stating the "family values" in good light, from multiple players. The lastest from Vlad Emilien.

JT Turner passed the OGT Justin Turner Is In | mgoblog