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NCAA - slowly ruining football (rules changes - merged)

I don't see it as a big deal. Coaching staffs just need to have their squads ready to get into the game when time is important. Or, it just makes you save one timeout for an emergency situation. Either way, the coaches that manage the game effectively shouldn't have too much of a problem.
 
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"We weren't looking to take plays away from the game," Tuberville told USA Today. "We were looking to … get away from some of these 3-hour, 45-minute games in hot weather or cold weather. This is obviously an experiment. Anything we do in the rules committee can be changed next year."
how the fuck do you expect to shorten the game without taking plays away from it dipshit.
 
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OMG this is awful! :grr: I quite enjoy spending 3-4 hours watching a game, whether it be on my couch, actually being at a game or tailgating. Dealing with hot/cold weather is just part of the deal IMO. And how effective can shortening half-time be? Those boys deserve every bit of 15 minutes to rest!! To me, this sucks no matter how you look at it
 
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Joe Tiller was moaning about this rule at both days of the Big Ten meetings last week.

Coaches and fans will be bitching about it as soon as their team runs out of time on their game-ending drive. The other team will be happy about it until the same thing happens to them.

Everybody has the same rules, and the same amount of time to be prepared for how they impact the game. Personally, I think it's bad simply because there will be less plays, and less football is a bad thing. :(

Scooter, I think you're right about the clock moving on first down after the ball is set. I believe the only difference will be after changes of posession, when the clock didn't move until the play started. I don't think they'll start the clock before the snap after first downs where the player went out-of-bounds, but I haven't seen that clearly specified either way.

But on change of possessions that end up out of bounds, does the clock start early? I believe it does, since Paterno has mentioned that a team could just punt out of bounds with 8 to 10 seconds left, and the next play wouldn't happen.

I hope all of the refs are certain of the new rules.
 
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I'm not sure that's accurate.
They left out the "after a change in possession" portion of that statement. If there was a change of possession, they wouldn't start the clock until the offense snapped the ball. Many coaches don't like this change because a sudden change of possession like that can cause a lot of confusion. Having only 40 seconds to get adjusted can be pretty hectic.
 
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I'm not sure that's accurate.

Here is the actual wording from the 2006 Rulebook:

Rule 3-2-5e:

"e. When Team B is awarded a first down, the clock will be stopped and will
start on the ready for play signal. (Exceptions: After a team timout and
the succeding play after the end of a period.)"

The Team B indicates change of possession from a punt, turnover, etc. This is a change from previous rules.
 
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If they were really interested in the integrity and flow of the game and wanted to shorten the length of games, maybe they should look at eliminating the ungodly amount and length of TV timeouts-- OH WAIT, that would cut into their revenue from the TV networks...better yet why don't we eliminate 2nd and 4th quarters to replace them with additional advertising.....

It bothers me when I watch a CFB game and the TV networks will go to commercial break, then comeback and stay on the game to give us stories from the sidelines, not actual games. Maybe, just maybe we could cut some of the extras out and allow the focus to on the game. I mean, when a player gets hurt the networks will often stay right there, why don't they immediately cut to commercial and try to cram as many in as possible before coming back to the game? I get sick of TV timeouts much quicker than I get sick of teams trying to play the game and win on a last second score. Why penalize the game and the teams when the sole reason they go so long is because conferences, schools, and the NCAA are in bed with TV networks to maximize the money? It really disgusts me.

Sorry for the rant!:(
 
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Tressel's comments on the clock rule changes from last week's press conference (which I had videotaped off ESPNews):

"Well, I don't expend a whole bunch of energy on being upset about things like that. Uh, you know, it's the same for us as it is for the others, and, uh you know, we're gonna have to, I guess, play though it a little bit. Someone within the decision making process did the study and decided that this would be good. Now I wasn't a part of that, and I don't want to, you know, make predictions as to whether it will be good or it won't be good.

I'm sure a year from now, maybe we'll have some examples of where it had an impact and so forth, and...

I like the game. I don't know if I like tinkering with the game, I've never been a huge replay guy. You know, I just like ... Officials do a good job. They do the best they can, and all these things...

But, whatever. I'm not against the rules. I'll be anxious to see...I just...

My job is to make sure we manage the clock the best we can do. If we do that, I'm sure that new rule won't affect us.

And maybe we can evaluate at the end of the season, you know, if it's something that's... maybe shouldn't have been done, but I don't have a strong enough opinion right now."
 
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changes

OK so they take real game time away instead of commercials, to speed up the game and then they give no coaches a challenge/ ?? HMMM?
no thank to the challenge or the time savers.
Let em have less commercials and network breaks

.:oh: :io:
 
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OK so they take real game time away instead of commercials, to speed up the game and then they give no coaches a challenge/ ?? HMMM?
no thank to the challenge or the time savers.
Let em have less commercials and network breaks

.:oh: :io:


College coaches have a replay challenge this year. There's nothing they throw on the field, they'll just call a timeout and then tell the ref they have a challenge. If they win the challenge, they aren't charged a timeout. If they have no timeouts left, they can't make an official challenge. But they can yell at the officials - of course, the officials on the field are NOT allowed to stop play to initiate a challenge, so a coach out of timeouts has to get the attention of the guys in the replay booth. That could be entertaining at times. :biggrin:

There is only 1 challenge per each team per game. If a timeout is called when the team didn't have any, it's a delay of game penalty. Of course, on a change of possession and other key plays, there will be times that's a good penalty if the replay get initiated during the delay.

Here's the whole set of replay rules for 2006:

NEW Rule 12, Instant Replay
Change: To add the following procedure to the rules book, as an optional or permissive rule.
Rationale: After successful experimentation in the past two football seasons, all Division I-A conferences have requested a uniform system of replay to be included in the rules book. As this is permissive, not mandated, the rule would allow for growth without forcing all institutions and conferences to use video review. The committee notes that overall game times increased by two minutes in Division I-A, with several conferences that used replay reporting shorter game times.

Section 1. Definition
Definition
Article 1. Instant Reply is a system utilizing electronic means to review and assist game officials with certain on-field decisions as listed in Section 3.
Section 2. Eligibility for Instant Replay
Participation
Article 1. a. Any member institution may use instant replay. This rule is permissive, not a requirement. If instant replay is used, it must be used in full compliance with this rule.
b. For any non-conference game, if the home team is using instant replay, the visiting team does not have the option of declining its use for that game. If the home team is not using instant replay, the visiting team does not have the option of requesting that it be used in that game.
Section 3. Reviewable Plays
Side Line, Goal Line, End Line
Article 1. Reviewable plays governed by a sideline, goal line or an end line include:
a. Scoring plays, including a runner in possession of a live ball breaking the plane of a goal line.
b. A pass ruled complete, incomplete or intercepted at a side line, goal line or an end line.
c. A runner or pass receiver ruled in or out of bounds.
d. Recovery of a loose ball in or out of bounds in the field of play or an end zone.
Passes
Article 2. Reviewable plays involving passes include:
a. A pass ruled complete, incomplete or intercepted anywhere in the field of play or an end zone.
b. A legal forward pass touched by an ineligible receiver.
c. A legal forward pass touched by a defensive player.
d. A fumble ruled on the part of a potential passer. (Note: If the on-field ruling is forward pass and the pass is incomplete, the play is not reviewable).
e. A forward pass or forward handing ruled when a runner is beyond the line of scrimmage.
f. A forward pass or forward handing ruled after a change of possession.
g. A pass ruled forward or backward when thrown from behind the line of scrimmage. (Exception: If the pass is ruled forward and is incomplete, the play is not reviewable).
Miscellaneous
Article 3. Miscellaneous reviewable plays include:.
a. A runner judged to have been not down by rule. (Note: If a runner is ruled down, the play is not reviewable).
b. A runner’s forward progress with respect to a first down.
c. Touching of any type kick by any player.
d. The number of players participating by either team during a live ball.
e. A scrimmage kicker beyond the line of scrimmage when the ball is kicked.
f. Clock adjustment when a ruling on the field is reversed.
g. A fumble recovery by a Team A player during fourth down or a try and before any change of possession.
Plays Not Reviewable
Article 4. No other plays or officiating decisions are reviewable.
Section 4. Instant Replay Personnel, Equipment and Location
Personnel
Article 1. Instant replay personnel shall consist of the number of persons needed to operate the replay equipment within the necessary time constraints. A minimum of three persons shall be utilized to insure that all plays are reviewed in an efficient and a timely manner. Such persons are normally referred to as replay official, communicator and technician. Additional persons may be used as needed.
Equipment
Article 2. The type of equipment used to carry out necessary instant replay duties shall be determined by each conference or member institution utilizing instant replay.
Location
Article 3. a. All equipment used in making a decision during the replay process and the personnel using that equipment shall be located in a separate, secure location in the press box. This room shall not be available or accessible to any person not directly involved in instant replay.
b. Additional telephonic equipment needed to allow instant reply personnel to communicate with the game referee when a game has been stopped for a play review shall be located on a side line near the field of play and preferably outside a team area. Such equipment shall provide the game referee and the replay official a secure and private means of communication.
Section 5. Initiating the Replay Process
Game Stop
Article 1. There are two methods to stop a game to review a ruling on the field.
a. The replay official and the crew shall review every play of a game. The replay official may stop a game at any time before the ball is next put in play whenever:
1. There is reasonable evidence to believe an error was made in the initial on-field ruling.

2. The play is reviewable.
3. Any reversal of an on-field ruling, which would result from indisputable video evidence, would have a direct, competitive impact on the game.
b. The head coach of either team may request that the game be stopped and a play be reviewed by challenging the on-field ruling one time during a game.
1. A coach initiates this challenge by taking a team time out before the ball is next put in play and informing the referee that the coach is challenging the ruling of the previous play.
2. After a review has been completed, if the on-field ruling is reversed, that team’s time out will not be charged.
3. After a review has been completed and the on-field ruling is not reversed, the charged team time out counts as one of the three permitted that team for that half.
4. A head coach may not challenge a ruling in which the game was stopped and a decision has already been made by the replay official.
5. If a head coach requests a team time out to challenge an on-field ruling and the play being challenged is not reviewable, the time out shall count as one of the three permitted the team during that half of the game.
6. A head coach may not challenge an on-field ruling if all the team’s timeouts have been used for that half. If all team timeouts have been used and a head coach signals for, and is granted, a time out, a delay penalty will be assessed.
7. Each head coach shall be permitted one challenge per game.
When to Stop a Game
Article 2. a. A game may be stopped, either by the instant replay official or by a head coach’s challenge at any time before the ball is next put in play.
b. No game official may request that a game be stopped and a play be reviewed.

Section 6. Reviewing an On-field Ruling
Procedures
Article 1. a. When a game is to be stopped either by the replay official or by a head coach’s challenge, the designated officials on the field will be notified by a buzzer system or other appropriate means.
b. The referee shall announce that the ruling on the field is being reviewed. If the game has been stopped due to a head coach’s challenge, the referee will so indicate in the announcement.
c. All reviews shall be based upon video evidence provided by and coming directly from the televised production of the game. If there is no television available, all video pictures shall come from the in-stadium video board production.
d. After the referee has conferred with the replay official and the review process has been completed, the referee shall make one of the following announcements:
1. If the video evidence confirms the on-field ruling:
“After review, the ruling on the field is confirmed.”
2. If there is no indisputable (conclusive) evidence to reverse the on-field ruling:
“After review, there is no conclusive video evidence to change the ruling on the field. Therefore, the ruling stands.”
3. If the on-field ruling is reversed:
“After review, there is indisputable (conclusive) video evidence that . . . [followed by a brief description of the video evidence]. Therefore, . . . [followed by a brief description of what the reversal means].
e. If a ruling is reversed, the replay official shall supply the referee with all pertinent data as needed (next down, distance, yard line, position of the ball, clock status/adjustment) in order to resume play under the correct game conditions.
Time Restrictions
Article 2. a. Although each head coach is limited to one challenge per game, there is no restriction on the number of times the replay official may stop a game to review an on-field ruling.
b. If the game is stopped to review a play, there is no time limit for the review process.
Section 7. Reversing an On-Field Ruling
Criterion for Reversal
Article 1. In order to reverse an on-field ruling, the replay official must see indisputable video evidence through one or more video replays provided to the monitor.
 
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