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Cleveland Browns (Factory of Sadness)

Monken was in Cleveland before his three years at UGA correct? My understanding is he was run outta town once before?

Correct. He was brought in for the 2019 season. The attempt was move the offense to a more vertical based passing game, driving the ball downfield early & often. Similar to how Seattle (at the time) Tampa with Brady, KC with Mahomes had become.

Baker showed up to camp overweight & out of shape. He struggled to consistently push the ball downfield without throwing picks and he bailed from clean pockets at the highest rate in the NFL.

Brownies offense went back under center and limited certain route types. F Delta was the biggest - of course, where Odell shined. But that is where Baker & ODB couldn't get onto the same page post snap because Baker struggled (still does) to consistently diagnose safety leverage.

Kitchens was fired as a result, Monken went out the door with him.
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Cincinnati Reds (2026 Season Thread)

Votto was clearly the better hitter

Elly plays a premium defensive position and steals bases on top of being a an above league average hitter

Votto WAR per game=.0268
Elly War per game= .0226

Votto is 18.6% more valuable by that simple math.

"Better" is subjective. The missing data from that comp is age.

Votto's first three years he was 23,24,25
Elly was 21,22,23

Both are great, the shit Elly takes from this fanbase is amazing.
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Ohio State Wrestling (2015/2017/2018 B1G Champs, 2015 National Champs, 2019 National Runners-up)

It's been my experience that in a community, there's a wrestling/baseball/swimming/basketball person that's willing to give their time on an on-going basis to teach/train youngsters. And having facilities donated to do so. Daughter played 'team basketball' and we traveled, played games all over, and parents contributed dollars for coach to get paid, plus tournament entry fees. Our area had some darn fine women's softball teams, and women's basketball teams, that won state awards (California) year over year, and parents lined up to get their daughter's on those teams. So, extrapolating this to men's wrestling, it takes a former wrestler, with the time, energy, and desire to continue to coach the young 'uns, and not for a while, but on a long-term basis.....
And they do, but it’s not cheap.

Theres “club” wrestling gyms all over the place. Usually owned by a former wrestler who hires “coaches” who have a long history in wrestling.

From the clubs we’ve been members at, the rate is typically $120-$150 a month which includes 4 practices a week (M - F) and access to an open mat on Sundays which is free for anyone. Coaches usually travel to regional events to support kids during tournaments.

It is definitely time consuming and they have to love it. There’s typically a regional tournament every weekend in season, and probably a tournament monthly they’ll attend out of the winter season. But you can tell they’re fully invested in it….they love the sport and seeing kids grow.

As I explain to my buddies who have never been around wrestling, even if my son never makes it beyond HS wrestling, the culture he’s around nearly daily will pay off in the future. You can’t fake it in wrestling and these kids & adults that he’s with consistently, are there to support and uplift. It’s different than any sport I was around as a kid….the sport is such a grind, the respect everyone has for one another is at a different level.
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Indiana Hoosiers (2025 National Champions)

Indiana's Fernando Mendoza, likely No. 1 pick, enters NFL draft

Indiana quarterback Fernando Mendoza, who won the Heisman Trophy and led the No. 1 Hoosiers to their first national championship this past season, is forgoing his final college season and entering the NFL draft, he announced on social media Friday.

Mendoza is an overwhelming favorite to be the No. 1 pick in the NFL draft by the Las Vegas Raiders.

"Let's get to work," Mendoza wrote on his Instagram account. "I'm humbled to announce that I am officially declaring for the 2026 NFL Draft!"

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Ohio State Men's Tennis (2014/2019/2024 ITA Indoor National Champs, 19 Straight B1G Titles)

Meanwhile alumni cash and Tracy are 14 seeds in the Australian open men’s doubles

They won their 1st round match 7-5, 6-2 against M. Demoliner (Brazil) and J. Rojer (Dutch player from Curaçao). Their 2nd round match will be on Sunday, January 25.
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Deaths Of Notable Sports Figures (R.I.P.)

Multi-time MLB All-Star dies at 84

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Former Major League Baseball pitcher Wilbur Wood, who made the MLB All-Star game three times during his career, has died. He was 84 years old.

The Chicago White Sox announced Wood’s death earlier this week on X.

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“The White Sox send our condolences to the family, friends and fans of 3x All-Star Wilbur Wood, who has passed away at the age of 84,” the White Sox posted on X. “Wood appeared in 578 games (286 starts) over 12 seasons with the White Sox from 1967-1978.”

In addition to the White Sox, Wilbur Wood also played for the Red Sox and Pirates during his MLB career.
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2025 College Football Playoffs Discussion (12 Team Format)

I'm not surprised by the 30M for Monday's game.
I am surprised by only 22M for OSU-ND. Indiana-Miami drew 50% more viewers? Crazy.
I think it’s the North vs North thing. ND isn’t as national as they think they are, and Ohio state has been there a lot recently. The southeast annd southwest US likely ignored the game.

IU brought a lot of viewers as a ‘cool story’ and Miami is a great team to hate. It was a great north south battle (most of the folks here in Florida were cheering for IU). Similar to Ohio State vs Oregon. East vs West. Blue blood vs likeable scrappy new team searching for their first title, but that time the villain won. :shrug:
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Ohio State Women's Basketball (2023-24 B1G CHAMPS)

Really have to applaud the Lady Bucks for hanging tough, when down ten in the blink of an eye. Keeping up the good fight, certainly, but mainly just sticking to the game plan, and nibbling away at the lead. Currently a couple of Buckeyes are 'hot' and canning threes like there's no tomorrow. Makes the Buckeyes dangerous. Watching Elsa get better is a treat. Cannot say she's a backyard brawler yet, but she's not as timid in mixing it up under the basket. Her blocks to foul ratio is improving as well. Rejecting shots around the rim is a talent, and a valuable one. Playing with Kitts is also fun to watch, hope her shoulder just needs rest. Any way, the press seems to work more often than not (26 TOs by IU!) shows it. Still not to the bar of Jacy and Celeste, but getting there. Being down 10, and winning by 14 is a 24 point swing! and is HUGE. Keep the ball rolling. In the FWIW category, Hobbs is looking askance from the bench. Am hoping she gets some meaningful minutes so that she sticks around. Having Elsa play with four fouls is commendable, but putting Hobbs in the game to give Elsa a blow will be vital against the Uconn, SCs, Texas, etc in the Dance.
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ESPN (A bunch of Death-Spiraling maroons)

Who?
I'll admit that my circle of people aren't so much into Ohio State as they are the Browns, but I don't know of anyone saying that they want to go back to any "old days" when Bama and "the SEC" won the NC. We're all laughing at 3 years of the SEC not even being in the championship.
Also, point of order: The SEC never won a national championship. Individual teams in the SEC won a bunch, including all from 2006 to 2012, and then more from 2015 to 2022. (I know they didn't win all those in that time, but I forget which ones were Clemson.)
When people paid under the table..
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Ohio State @ #3 ttun, Friday Jan. 23, 8pm EST, FOX

Over the last week or so, have seen various Buckeyes step up and perform, maybe over-and-above normal skill levels, but happened when we needed it. Here's hoping that more than several perform at a level above during the Xichigan game tonight. Other than the normal 'let's beat them' theme, will play well when the group is looking for teams to play in the Dance. Don't think tOSU is going to win the B10 this year, but a decent showing in league, and then again in the B10 tournament will give the group substance in putting Ohio State in a bracket slot. And given how the B10 BB teams are doing this year, betting on a 10-8 seeding.
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2027 TX DL Jalen Brewster (Texas Tech Verbal)

Note to Brew....Coach J has more than 'several' starters/players in the NFL. Hopefully you're looking at NFL money, and not the money that college NIL is paying you. And remember, getting drafted is nice, but you still gotta have skills/technique to stay in the league, so where are you going to get that? And further down the road, would you rather hang a sheepskin from TT (the goatropers), or tOSU (the Buckeyes)?
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2027 AL DL Karlos May (Verbal Offer)

Keep Coach J's motor running.....Amazing how a couple of recruits, in the 5* range, change the perception of Coach J. He doesn't look a day over 60. Heck, as long as he's got his health, and enjoys what he's doing, why would he retire? Have heard he's stepping down, and becoming an advisor type, still associated with tOSU DL, but like the eneregizer bunny, he just keeps on ticking....or have I mixed metaphors? Anyway, am very glad that Patricia and Johnson have found some common ground in the Buckeye scheme of things....Go Bucks!
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