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2024 tOSU Defense Discussion

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Bestbuck36 said:
I'm counting on at least 3 sit is this year abs Is live for the Defense to allow under 100ypg in both rushing and passing. Had that ever been done @DaddyBigBucks?
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Does this mean 3 games in which the Silver Bullets allow double digit (or less) yards both running and passing? I think the autocorrect gremlins went to town on what you were trying to say.

EDIT: Or do you mean has that ever been done by anyone?

I'll go ahead and give you the short answer now, either way: Back in the early days of the forward pass, shutouts were quite common. I'm sure as many games as not had at least one team held to double digits both on the ground and through the air.

As for "modern history"... So far I have only looked at the Bama defenses of a little over a decade ago because those were the most likely candidates. The '09 and '10 defenses only did it twice each, but Bamas other-worldly 2011 defense was truly ridiculous. They did it four times. Weirdly enough, they gave up their most points all year (and OVER 300 YARDS RUSHING) to Chattanooga. Yes... that Chattanooga.

Still perusing the last 15 years for the Silver Bullets
 
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Bestbuck36 said:
I'm counting on at least 3 sit is this year abs Is live for the Defense to allow under 100ypg in both rushing and passing. Had that ever been done @DaddyBigBucks?
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OK... I'm still assuming your meaning here because it's not entirely clear to me...

I looked at the last 15 years for the Silver Bullets. Unfortunately I went back 15 years and started there. I say "unfortunately" because it did not happen until 2023. Seriously. Last year. In every one of the last 15 season, the Buckeyes held teams to under 100 in both rushing and passing once or twice every year, except 2020 in which they did not do it at all, AND except for 2023, in which they managed it against Indiana, MSU, and Minnesota.

So three times is not common... But it did happen last year. The Buckeyes have not done it more than once in consecutive years since '09 and '10.

Of course, for all I know I looked this all up for nothing and your question is about something wholly other.
 
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DaddyBigBucks said:
Does this mean 3 games in which the Silver Bullets allow double digit (or less) yards both running and passing? I think the autocorrect gremlins went to town on what you were trying to say.

EDIT: Or do you mean has that ever been done by anyone?

I'll go ahead and give you the short answer now, either way: Back in the early days of the forward pass, shutouts were quite common. I'm sure as many games as not had at least one team held to double digits both on the ground and through the air.

As for "modern history"... So far I have only looked at the Bama defenses of a little over a decade ago because those were the most likely candidates. The '09 and '10 defenses only did it twice each, but Bamas other-worldly 2011 defense was truly ridiculous. They did it four times. Weirdly enough, they gave up their most points all year (and OVER 300 YARDS RUSHING) to Chattanooga. Yes... that Chattanooga.

Still perusing the last 15 years for the Silver Bullets
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My freaking phone! This thing just puts in whatever it wants sometimes even after I hit send. It was supposed to be 3 shut outs! :smash:
 
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DaddyBigBucks said:
OK... I'm still assuming your meaning here because it's not entirely clear to me...

I looked at the last 15 years for the Silver Bullets. Unfortunately I went back 15 years and started there. I say "unfortunately" because it did not happen until 2023. Seriously. Last year. In every one of the last 15 season, the Buckeyes held teams to under 100 in both rushing and passing once or twice every year, except 2020 in which they did not do it at all, AND except for 2023, in which they managed it against Indiana, MSU, and Minnesota.

So three times is not common... But it did happen last year. The Buckeyes have not done it more than once in consecutive years since '09 and '10.

Of course, for all I know I looked this all up for nothing and your question is about something wholly other.
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Sorry bud that freaking gremlin is about to get a ton of bright lights!

I meant for an entire season, had anyone ever averaged only double digit yards against for both rushing and passing? Sheesh.
 
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Bestbuck36 said:
Sorry bud that freaking gremlin is about to get a ton of bright lights!

I meant for an entire season, had anyone ever averaged only double digit yards against for both rushing and passing? Sheesh.
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Yeah, my bad. I definitely shouldn't have just assumed what you meant and run with it, but hey, I was curious.

Shut outs have become rare, but they used to be common. Very common. The 1899 Buckeyes played 10 games. They tied Case 5-5 and shut-out all 9 of their other opponents. Nine shutouts in 10 games; 5 points given up all season.

Shutouts were so common back in the day that it seems certain that some of the better defenses of the archaic offense era almost certainly averaged less than 100 yards of total defense... never mind 100 yards rushing and 100 passing.

As for the modern era, I was able to find data going back to 1989.

Not one team has held their opponents to double digits in pass defense for a whole season going back to at least 1989.
 
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DaddyBigBucks said:
Yeah, my bad. I definitely shouldn't have just assumed what you meant and run with it, but hey, I was curious.

Shut outs have become rare, but they used to be common. Very common. The 1899 Buckeyes played 10 games. They tied Case 5-5 and shut-out all 9 of their other opponents. Nine shutouts in 10 games; 5 points given up all season.

Shutouts were so common back in the day that it seems certain that some of the better defenses of the archaic offense era almost certainly averaged less than 100 yards of total defense... never mind 100 yards rushing and 100 passing.

As for the modern era, I was able to find data going back to 1989.

Not one team has held their opponents to double digits in pass defense for a whole season going back to at least 1989.
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That's what I'm talking about I knew you would have that info. I think there's actually a chance thus year if that line plays the way we all hope. That would be glorious.
 
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ScriptOhio said:

College football rankings: Projecting 2024 eight strongest defenses​

Based on returning talent and key offseason additions, these defensive units should flourish.​

1. MICHIGAN WOLVERINES​

2. OHIO STATE BUCKEYES​

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Best returning defensive player: Denzel Burke, CB
Biggest offseason departure: Tommy Eichenberg, LB
Top roster addition: Caleb Downs, S, Alabama
It all starts with bookends Jack Sawyer and J.T. Tuimoloau for the Buckeyes, who are loaded on defense without a weakness under Jim Knowles. This should be Ohio State's best secondary in several years after swiping the best available defensive player from the portal (Downs) and convincing Burke and a few others to return. The star-studded cornerback group of Burke, Davison Igbinosun and Jordan Hancock is the Big Ten's and one of the top units in the country.

3. IOWA HAWKEYES​

4. OREGON DUCKS​

5. GEORGIA BULLDOGS​

6. CLEMSON TIGERS​

7. NOTRE DAME FIGHTING IRISH​

8. NEBRASKA HUSKERS​

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Just seeing this.

They do realize you need more than Will Johnson and 2 good DTs right?
 
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NJ-Buckeye said:
My expectation is that no team will score a point on this defense this year
I hope I'm not setting myself up for disappointment
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I don’t know about you but I intend to see how many of Heisman’s servers I can melt down single-handedly the first time a turnover by the third team offense ruins a shutout with the Bucks up by 60+
 
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College football quarterback roll call: Projected starter for each Power Four team after spring practice​

These signal-callers will define the 2024 season.​


Michigan State: Aidan Chiles
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Aidan Chiles - Oregon State Beavers Quarterback - ESPN

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Iowa: Cade McNamara
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Oregon: Dillon Gabriel
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Nebraska: Dylan Raiola

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Penn State: Drew Allar
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Purdue: Hudson Card
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Northwestern: Jack Lausch
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Indiana: Kurtis Rourke
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Michigan: Alex Orji
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Which QB do you think will be Ohio State's defense biggest challenge? I guess it is the changing landscape of college football; but still it is kind of surprising how may of the QB1s in the B1G are transfers.
 
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