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Should semipro/college players be paid, or allowed to sell their stuff? (NIL)



Highlights from that Q&A are below, with the full release from the NCAA below that.

+ Athletes can now be compensated as social media influencers along with this approval. They can also make public appearances and be paid for that as well.

+ The Board understood the gravity of their recommendation and the impact that this will have on college athletics.

+ No, the video game probably isn’t coming back any time soon. During the call, the idea was called “unworkable.” From the full report linked in the release below: At this time, the working group is also not recommending any changes to NCAA rules to permit group licenses of student-athlete NIL in what are characterized as group products (like video games). There are legal hurdles to such activity that preclude it as a realistic option for implementation at this time. The working group recommends that the NCAA continue to explore whether those legal hurdles can be overcome through efforts described in Section VI, so that this issue can be revisited in 2021 or later.

+ The distinction needs to be maintained that student-athletes are not employees.

+ There will be attention paid to the market value of student-athletes in order to make sure payments made do not become inducements. Players are accountable to every dollar they receive in this and schools and the NCAA will be aware. There will be some subjectivity in dollar amounts for some players because that’s the market.

+ On why athletes can’t wear school logos or jerseys in an endorsement, athletes can make it known where they play, but the use of school gear is prohibited. There’s not much difference in the pro sports realm in this regard. You don’t necessarily see players in their uniforms when they are in a commercial selling insurance. By bringing in the intellectual property of uniforms and logos, it’s harder to keep that separation of employee/employer, which is why they will not allow intellectual property.

+ Boosters cannot be involved in the NIL during recruitment of a player. But any involvement after that is still being ironed out. “This has come up over and over again by our schools. It’s the source of the most concern.” The difficulty of it doesn’t mean they can’t get it figured out. They have to figure out how to regulate involvement. They do not want boosters involved in the recruitment of players.

+ There is no cap to what a player can earn, but there will be “guardrails.”

+ How will “influencing” be regulated? They are still answering these questions. They have talked a lot with the sports marketing world. They are at a level of comfort regarding having that information and having some regulations in place by January. Getting $50,000 to like a couple of things on social media probably isn’t the answer though. Through transparency, they will be able to monitor booster involvement and notice patterns. “So that at least is a starting point for how we can go about monitoring this.” It is also important to educate the student-athletes in this that if they engage in this and make too much, they could lose out on Pell Grants and things like that.

+ How will they monitor the agents? They are still working on that. How much staff increase will be needed? That is still being talked about. There will be costs associated with this because new staff will have to be created, but it would be a wild guess at this point.
 
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No, the video game probably isn’t coming back any time soon. During the call, the idea was called “unworkable.”

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How much staff increase will be needed? That is still being talked about. There will be costs associated with this because new staff will have to be created, but it would be a wild guess at this point.

Make no mistake, this is the key for the NCAA.

I don't care what their mission statement is, their real mission is the same as every other bloated bureaucracy; stay alive, gain more money/power/turf.....continue the bloat.

It's amazing to me that people (AD's and such) are keeping a straight face while talking about an institution as archaic and inefficient as the NCAA being able to manage a free market niche like 21st century social media marketing.

There is zero chance they do this well. As a parent of a potential student athlete off the top of my head;
  • the fuck you mean by "guard rails"? Please define.
  • what visibility do we have into the process by which you determine what is fair market price for one SA and not another?
  • what recourse does the SA have for lost compensation if , let's just say, your Central Committee fucks up it's estimate of fair market value (FMV)?
As with most things, all this over-regulation will do is
1) harm the people the bureaucracy is claiming they will be "helping" and
2) create unlimited opportunities for lawyers to be the only ones who actually make money.
 
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the fuck you mean by "guard rails"

They mean they need a piece of the pie.
They'll continue bsing about 'think of the children' so they can be the middleman.

You already said as much in your post ... but it bothers me so im gonna keep saying it.

what visibility do we have into the process by which you determine what is fair market price for one SA and not another?

Acceptable:
- Boxing match that uses Notre Dame in advertising.
- Field trips not available to general pop.

Not acceptable:
- $5 handmade beanies by a player
 
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They mean they need a piece of the pie.
They'll continue bsing about 'think of the children' so they can be the middleman.

You already said as much in your post ... but it bothers me so im gonna keep saying it.



Acceptable:
- Boxing match that uses Notre Dame in advertising.
- Field trips not available to general pop.

Not acceptable:
- $5 handmade beanies by a player

I want to see the first athlete that gets an endorsement to promote a porn site.

Shouldn't matter, right? Just no school logo visible in ant money shots.
 
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