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Should semipro/college players be paid, or allowed to sell their stuff? (NIL)

RCollett

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Is anyone watching this show on ESPiN? Two panels with so people for it and some people against it. John Thompson, former head coach at Georgetown has made some points against athletes being paid that are some of the most truthful statements I have ever heard. They have everyone from the president of the NCAA to an NFL agent on the panel, many of which are making points that would benefit themselves more than the student athletes they are discussing. Coach Thompson is making real life statements about real life situations that effect almost every student athlete in the country.
 
This Thompson said in front of Myles Brand that he had seen many cases where players had accepted money. I heard that brand wanted to know why he didn't report them and he got shifty.
 
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That happened early in the show. It was pretty funny but it is the truth. It probably happened right under Brands nose while he was at Indiana. The commments I am talking about were just about a half way into the program. He shut everybody up including Bob Ley who is moderating for ESPiN.
 
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myles brand gave tosu props for dealing with rogue boosters b/c tosu's president of the booster club turned in the rogue booster in question...

it was an absolutely positive statement towards tosu that we haven't seen in a long, long time...


HUGE STATEMENT from brand imo....
 
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exactly mili......

ask the parents of any kids the age of 15-18 if they would be willing to accept a full ride for their children......99.9% would bow down and kiss your feet for doing so....

there is an enormous parental responsibility involved here....if the parents of athletes can't pony up 3k a year in spending money for their kid, they need to stop complaining....

most parents take out loans, get second jobs or get a second mortgage to put their kids through college FOR THE OPPORTUNITY IT PROVIDES THEM IN LIFE....

what has been a unique feature of American society is the willingness of the parents to sacrifice for the betterment of their children...
 
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That is basically what Thompson said. Life is full of choices and choosing to go to school weather it be because of a sport or a degree is an individual decision. If someone wants to get paid they can get a job and live their life like everyone else instead of complaining about their free education, room and board, and even their monthly allowance provided by most large universities. I only wish I had the athletic ability of some of these kids. I went to a D-3 school to play baseball with no athletic scholarship at all. I did it because I wanted to play the game. I only lasted 1 year because my family couldn't afford another loan. Now I have a job and am able to do what I want when I want but I still think about baseball. These kids and the adults that are pushing for this forget or do not realize what they have in front of them.

The only point I do agree with is that athletes should get a FULL scholarship. I guess most scholarships only cover 90% of there fees.
 
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RCollett said:
The only point I do agree with is that athletes should get a FULL scholarship. I guess most scholarships only cover 90% of there fees.
I'm pretty sure that most athletic scholarships (i.e. football scholarships) cover tuition and room & board. The only expenses left unpaid are books and personal expenses (extra food, etc.).
 
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Hodge said:
I'm pretty sure that most athletic scholarships (i.e. football scholarships) cover tuition and room & board. The only expenses left unpaid are books and personal expenses (extra food, etc.).
When I went to Ohio State (almost 40 years ago) as part of their scholarship (in addition to tuition, room, and board) they got their books, money for a Sunday meal (the commons only served 20 meals a week), and money for laundry expenses. Needless to say the meal and laundry money wasn't very much, but they did get a few bucks a month for it..........according to some of the football players that lived in Smith Hall.
 
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I'm not getting into to this again b/c it just goes

in circles. But to clear something up that I saw in one of the threads...a full scholarship includes books (I didn't have to pay for them once I was put on "scholarship". Why do they even call it that...there is nothing academically involved with a football/basketball/baseball scholarship. Save SCHOLARSHIPS for the academics who earn them (not me) and call the others what they are "athleticships"...let's be real.

And yes, I feel the athletes should share in the ENORMOUS AND GIGANTIC revenues they bring in for the Universities. Only problem, it's not the same across the board at all schools.

Archie Griffin was here in Hawai'i recently and he agrees that the athletes should get paid a stipend and that it is equal across the board sport-wise!

NUFF SAID!

HAYN
 
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I am a firm believer that athletes should not get paid beyond what the already do. I don't buy the idea that if athletes get paid, they won't take handouts. That's not a question of well-being, that's a question of integrity, and a salary doesn't give you integrity

I also don't buy the "profit sharing" argument. I firmly believe that an athletic scholarship is a vehicle for vocational training. For those that are fortunate enough to be good enough to go pro in their sport, a college scholarship gives them the opportunity to refine their skills and gain knowledge to be employable in their field - just as the business major or chemistry major does. For those who aren't good enough to go pro, the scholarship (and the prestige, in the case of Buckeye football players) that comes from the deal opens doors for them that may not have been otherwise just on the basis of their academic record or previous connnections.
 
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hawaiianbuckeye said:
Archie Griffin was here in Hawai'i recently and he agrees that the athletes should get paid a stipend and that it is equal across the board sport-wise!

My understanding is that they do get a stipend (at least those who live off campus and not in dorms). I was at the banquet where Archie spoke, and what I got from it is that not all stipends are the same...maybe I misheard.
 
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College athletes do get paid.
They get a free education and a stipend.
I hate these whiney ass people who think they should get paid.
Big damn deal, they have to go work out every day, I do that just to feel good about myself.
Oh whats that? College is expensive? Try telling that to the other 48,000 kids who have to pay their own way.
College athletes are given thousands, and thousands of dollars per year to attend school.
If you want to pay college athletes, then you should also pay electrical engineers.
After all, we will be the ones who dictate your future.
What happens on the football field makes for great water cooler talk,
but what engineers develop in labs changes your life, so why pay them and not us????

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Ill bring up one more point that I have brought up before.
Research brings in millions and millions of dollars a year to tOSU, but I dont see anyone crying that grad and undergrad students (you know, the ones who actually do the research) dont get any money.
 
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