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Miami Marlins (2x World Series Champions)

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LoKyBuckeye

LoKyBuckeye

I give up. This board is too hard to understand.
Delgado chooses Marlins

BY JON HEYMAN
NEWSDAY STAFF WRITER

January 25, 2005, 5:41 PM EST

Carlos Delgado has agreed in principle to a four-year deal with the Florida Marlins worth $52 million, Newsday has learned.

The Mets also offered the Delgado a four-year, $52 million deal but Delgado chose the 2003 World Champion Marlins over them and the Baltimore Orioles.

The agreement was confirmed by a team official who spoke on condition of anonymity. It's expected to become official Thursday after Delgado, 32, undergoes a physical and the sides agree to contract language.

Delgado, who hit at least 30 homers each of the past eight seasons in Toronto, earned $19.7 million last season.

Under the terms of this deal under discussion earlier in the day, Delgado would get just $4 million this year, another baseball official told The Associated Press, also on condition of anonymity.

Delgado would get $13.5 million in 2006, $14.5 million in 2007 and $16 million in 2008, and the deal would include a $16 million option for 2009 that would become guaranteed based on how Delgado does in MVP voting and whether he earns postseason MVP awards.

Delgado would need to accumulate 30 points in the next four years for the fifth year to kick in. He would get 10 points for winning the NL MVP award and nine for finishing second and so on under a formula that gives him one point for finishing 10th. He would get 20 points if he's the World Series MVP and 10 if he's the league championship series MVP.

If the option doesn't become guaranteed, Florida would have the right to exercise a $12 million option. If the option is declined, Delgado would get a $4 million buyout.

David Sloane, Delgado's agent, did not seem to be very fond of the Mets. The agent dumped them Sunday night without the courtesy of a phone call, and despite the club's offseason makeover, Sloane said in an e-mail exchange that the Mets have no better shot at making the playoffs than the Orioles -- a team that shares a division with the Yankees and Red Sox.

The Mets already are talking again about Sammy Sosa, whom Minaya has wanted since the day he was named GM in September, and they have been looking into the health of rehabbing outfielder Magglio Ordoñez.

The Sosa deal is complicated and there will be competition for Ordoñez. The Orioles, now having lost out on Delgado, are expected to become involved in the talks for Ordoñez along with the Tigers, Cubs and Rangers.

The Mets also would have to clear an outfield spot if they signed Ordoñez, trading either Mike Cameron or Cliff Floyd, and then would need someone to play first base. Free agents John Olerud and Travis Lee are likely candidates, and Boston's Doug Mientkiewicz is available via trade.

The Mets figured Delgado would cost about the same as pairing Ordoñez with a first baseman, and that's why jumped up from last Thursday's three-year offer of $33 million.

Delgado, a left-handed hitter, spent all 12 previous major-league seasons with the Toronto Blue Jays. He's a career .282 hitter with 336 home runs and 1,058 RBIs. His .269 average in 2004 was his lowest since batting .262 in 1997.

Staff writer David Lennon and the Associated Press contributed to this report.
 
Hopefully Theo can unload Eyechart and Byung-Hyun Kim to the Mets who desperately need a 1B and some bullpen help. There is some talk that Omar Minaya doesn't want to deal with the Sox at all however.

This signing makes me wonder why the Marlins didn't lock up Pudge or Carl Pavano long term but they were willing to fork over the dollars to an aging Carlos Delgado.
 
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Anxious to see if Delgado can hit as many homers at the big ballpark in Miami compared to the friendly confines of Skydome?

I say "No."

Plus it'll take him awhile to get used to NL pitching.

He got a lot of $$ for a 32 year old guy who hit .269 last year.
 
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What do you think?

Article from yahoo on Delgado:



Then he was asked about the war in Iraq. Delgado reaffirmed he's a Puerto Rican and U.S. citizen willing to stand up for his beliefs -- or, in his case, not stand up.

An opponent of the war, Delgado refused to stand when ``God Bless America'' was played last season at games involving his Toronto Blue Jays. Instead, he would stay on the bench or go into the dugout tunnel.

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``I wouldn't call it politics, because I hate politics,'' he said. ``The reason I didn't stand for `God Bless America' was because I didn't like the way they tied `God Bless America' and 9-11 to the war in Iraq in baseball.

``I say God bless America, God bless Miami, God bless Puerto Rico and all countries until there is peace in the world.''

Marlins officials made no objection to his war protest. ``The Marlins don't support it, and we don't not support it,'' Samson said. ``He's an adult. The club's position is that what he does is up to him.''

Yes, he is an adult, he can do what he wants (that's his right) but I am a vet and I think that he is spitting on all those who are dying for our countrys freedom. Do I think the war in Iraq is right? No but I still stand for the Pledge of Allegiance and God Bless America just out of respect for those who have died so you and I can be free!

 
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The purge begins again ..

1. The Mets reached a preliminary agreement Wednesday to acquire Carlos Delgado and $7 million from the Florida Marlins for first baseman Mike Jacobs and pitcher Yusmeiro Petit.

2. The Red Sox and Marlins have come to a tentative agreement on a trade that would send Josh Beckett, & three-time All-Star third baseman Mike Lowell to Boston for highly touted shortstop Hanley Ramirez, right-handed prospects Anibal Sanchez and Jesus Delgado.

I guarantee that all 5 of the kids going from the Red Sox/Mets to the Fish turn out to be jack shit. I wonder if the Marlins would be stupid enough to dump Miguel Cabrera too?? Hmmmm
 
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OB: "I'm mildly surprised Steinbrenner hasn't been dealing with the fish yet. If nothing else, than to keep up with the Sox."

The Yanks (obviously) wanted Beckett. The Marlins wanted Cano & Wang, and wanted George to take Lowell's contract back. The Yanks wanted nothing to do with Lowell's $18 mil remaining, and were too concerned with Beckett's injury history to give up their two best young players.

The Yanks three big targets this offseason are 1.) B.J. Ryan, which looked like a done deal, but I've heard (from a normally incorrect source) that talks have cooled because Ryan wants to close, 2.) Aaron Rowand, but the ChiSox aren't interested in anything the Yanks have to offer, so they're trying to swing a 3 way deal possibly sending Sheffield out of NY, and 3.) Kyle Farnsworth.
 
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NFBuck: "Feel bad for those four or five Marlin fans out there. Seems like 1998 all over again."

Hey, if you look at it, the Marlins run the perfect small market team. The formula is quite simple:

1. ALWAYS have a stocked farm system.
2. When those kids are ready to win, spend around them, and win the WS.
3. After you win it, unload the vets (who're players with Championship experience & high market value) for even more kids to stockpile the minor leagues.
4. Have a couple of bad seasons while the kids develop.
5. Win it again, and repeat formula.

Its worked like a charm so far ..

AKAK: "Grady Sizemore?"

Time to reopen talks ..
 
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Dumb move. Reason given was he "didn't mesh well with the organization". Translation: he wasn't a yes man. Did a helluva job with a very young team this season. Seems to be a tailor-made fit for the Cubbies though...

MIAMI (AP) -- Thanks to a managerial shuffle Tuesday, Florida Marlins owner Jeffrey Loria can now yell at umpires with the skipper's approval.
The Marlins fired Joe Girardi, and five hours later introduced as his replacement Fredi Gonzalez, third-base coach for the Atlanta Braves the past four years. Girardi's departure after only one season had been expected after his rift with Loria boiled over two months ago in an on-field confrontation over the owner's heckling of an umpire.
Gonzalez, 42, interviewed with the Marlins a year ago after Jack McKeon resigned but finished runner-up to Girardi. Born in Cuba and raised in Miami, Gonzalez became the first manager in the Marlins' organization when they hired him to run their first minor league team in Erie, Pa., in 1992.
"It's a long way from Erie, man," a smiling Gonzalez said at a news conference. "I hope I'm here for a lot of years."
Gonzalez said he has no problem with the owner razzing umps.
"If he wants to yell, he can yell," he said. "He paid for the team. He has the most expensive seat in the stadium."
The Marlins decided to fire Girardi not because of the umpire incident, but because he failed to mesh with others in the organization, general manager Larry Beinfest said.
"Joe is not returning because it was not a good fit," Beinfest said. "I will take some of that blame. I'm in charge, and it's my job to make sure everything runs as smoothly and efficiently as possible."
The cost-conscious Marlins wanted Girardi out so badly they were willing to let him go with two years left on a guaranteed three-year contract, which may cost them as much as $1.5 million. Florida made the move even though Girardi's considered a strong candidate for NL manager of the year.
The Marlins had baseball's youngest team and lowest payroll at $15 million, but Girardi led them to a 78-84 record, and they were in contention for a playoff berth until a late-September fade.
Girardi said he was fired during a short, unemotional meeting in his office with general manager Larry Beinfest, assistant general manager Mike Hill and team president David Samson.
"They came in and said, `We're going to make a change,"' Girardi said. He said no reason was given, and he didn't ask for one.
Loria did not attend the meeting but later spoke to Girardi by phone, a spokesman for the owner said. Several of Girardi's coaches will be considered for Gonzalez's staff, Beinfest said.
Girardi, an Illinois native, Northwestern graduate and former Chicago Cubs catcher, becomes a potential candidate to replace Dusty Baker, whose four-year tenure with the Cubs ended Monday. Two other teams are also looking for managers -- Washington parted with Frank Robinson, and San Francisco cut ties with Felipe Alou.
Girardi said he has no idea what he'll do next season, and plans to discuss options with his wife. His voice broke when he began discussing his dismissal with reporters in his office, but he was soon smiling and cracking jokes.
"I'll land on my feet," he said. "I talked to one of my mentors last night and I said, `I've never been fired before.' And he said, `Welcome to the club."'
Girardi declined to identify the mentor.
Beinfest said the decision to fire Girardi was cemented two weeks ago. Aware that other managing jobs would likely come open, the Marlins first contacted Gonzalez on Sept. 25 and had an agreement with him by midweek last week, Beinfest said.
"We knew Fredi was our guy, and we wanted to beat our competition to him," Beinfest said. "Interviewing while you have a sitting manager probably isn't the greatest thing, but we went through proper channels with the commissioner's office and the Atlanta Braves."
Gonzalez becomes the fourth manager hired by the Marlins since Loria bought the team in 2002. The latest change seemed inevitable after the rift between Girardi and Loria erupted at a game Aug. 6.
The owner berated an umpire while sitting behind the plate. From the dugout, Girardi asked Loria to stop.
"The gist of the conversation to Jeffrey was, 'I preach to my players about not arguing with umpires, and this is not going to help us,'" Girardi said.
Loria angrily left his seat and confronted Girardi after the game during a 90-minute clubhouse meeting. The owner has refused to comment on the episode or respond to published reports that he fired Girardi that day, then changed his mind.
Girardi declined to elaborate on what happened, or discuss his differences with Loria and Beinfest.
"Obviously, the things I did, whether they were perfect or not, the players responded. We won," Girardi said.
Beginning in spring training, Beinfest clashed with Girardi over personnel decisions, and during the second half of the season the general manager was rarely seen in the clubhouse or manager's office.
New York Yankees manager Joe Torre, who served as a mentor to Girardi, said he talked to his former catcher Monday.
"There was no anger," Torre said. "He understood that managing is not always based on how well you do. There are certain things you need to do, and people you need to please."
The Marlins' power struggle had no apparent effect on the team. Widely projected to lose more than 100 games, Florida instead rallied from an 11-31 start and trailed in the NL wild-card race by only two games on Sept. 12 before fading.
The Marlins became the first team to climb above .500 from 20 games under. They also became the first team to have four rookie pitchers win 10 games, and they set a record for most home runs by rookies with 112.
"People thought we were going to lose more games than any team in baseball, and we didn't," Girardi said. "And that's because of the players."
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