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2022 IN OT Kiyaunta Goodwin (Kentucky Verbal)

Discussion in 'Football Recruiting' started by HotMic, Aug 17, 2020.

  1. NorthCoastKid

    NorthCoastKid Senior

    Birm and Andrew Ellis have become quite bearish on this one. Seems like he could pop for Kentucky sooner rather than later.
  2. HotMic

    HotMic Mr. so-and-so Staff Member BP Recruiting Team

    Stud gonna Stud?
    Last edited: Apr 1, 2021
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  3. OregonBuckeye

    OregonBuckeye Semper Fi Buckeyes

    It's inevitable. 1 or 2 blue chippers and the rest projects is usually how his OL classes turn out
  4. MaxBuck

    MaxBuck 2014 National Champions!

    Given how good our OLs have been the past couple of years, it seems to have worked pretty well.
  5. buchtelgrad04

    buchtelgrad04 Pain is an opinion.

    And there’s some recruitments that even the best recruiters can’t win. It happens.
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  6. HotMic

    HotMic Mr. so-and-so Staff Member BP Recruiting Team

    When it comes to OL, you can’t just throw out the numbers as a whole and say “we’re fine”. There’s no issue on the interior of the line, he’s been fine there, but we’re approaching critical level at OT.

    They lose Munford, NPF, Paris, Jones and Wray over the next two years. They currently only have Zen, Jackson and maybe Christman as guys who can fill those spots. Adding Wagner would be nice, but he’s going to need a few years similar to NPF. Having three starting-level tackles (one of which is definitely better suited at guard) is unacceptable.
  7. Jaxbuck

    Jaxbuck I hate tsun ‘18 Fantasy Baseball Champ

    Swung and missed on multiple 5 star OT's over multiple years without a compensating pick up.

    That trend simply doesn't exist at any other recruiting position on the OSU staff.

    One or two is a coincidence, this is getting into trend territory.
  8. pnuts34

    pnuts34 Drunk off of wolverine tears

    And it's looking like Christman and Tshaboula will be OGs, so not good on OT depth.

    But the way our OL has performed, it's hard to think that he's on a hot seat. IDK if he needs a baby sitter to assist him recruiting or what, but OT recruiting has been less than stellar.
  9. buchtelgrad04

    buchtelgrad04 Pain is an opinion.

    We do this every year. This time it’s Stud. Last time it was Alford. Before that it was DT recruiting.

    If the players that are being brought in are progressing and are playing up to OSU standards, who cares about the star next to their name? Especially at OL.
  10. Comparing Stud's recruiting chops against Hartline's is not fair. How does Stud compare to Jim Bollman or Ed Warriner? I think Stud is still an upgrade.
  11. Jaxbuck

    Jaxbuck I hate tsun ‘18 Fantasy Baseball Champ

    Alford caught heat and fixed it in a big way just one year later. Stud has not done this, at least with OT's.

    As far as the second part goes, if the staff can just take any old 3 star and get OSU level play from them then why go after guys like Carman, Latham and Goodwin? The "stars are overrated" thing is a cop out. The staff has identified certain guys, prioritized them and then missed on them. There is no good way to spin that in terms of OT recruiting.
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  12. buchtelgrad04

    buchtelgrad04 Pain is an opinion.

    How is it a cop out when guys, especially offensive linemen, routinely outperform or underperform according to their ranking? None of the linemen that are projected to go in the first round were 5 stars and Penei Sewell was a 4 star OG.

    If the unit can plug-and-play as well as they did last year, I’m not sure why there are any complaints. They’ll land 2 good OT’s this year and probably a 3rd development guy.

    Somebody mentioned Wagner being a guy that won’t see the field for a few years as a knock against him. Goodwin is the same way, so I’m not sure the issue there? His body transformation is amazing. He’s still a raw prospect.
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  13. OregonBuckeye

    OregonBuckeye Semper Fi Buckeyes

    It makes more sense to me to compare him to the current top OL coaches in the country instead of past coaches at Ohio State. He's not competing for recruits against Bollman
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  14. OregonBuckeye

    OregonBuckeye Semper Fi Buckeyes

    I don't have complaints about how he's coached them up. But the goal at tOSU is to win NCs and as we saw against Bama, you have to be close to elite at every position group. If he can't bring in the top depth that the other top schools do, it will cost us. Just a reality of the situation. I definitely acknowledge the success he's had. Just saying his recruiting is lacking a bit by the high standards at Ohio State
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  15. buchtelgrad04

    buchtelgrad04 Pain is an opinion.

    Do not be mistaken, it’s not “other top schools.” It’s actually just that one school.

    Compared to anyone not named Alabama, where is OSU lacking depth?

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