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Kiyaunta Goodwin (OL Kentucky, transfer to Florida)

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When it comes to OL, you can’t just throw out the numbers as a whole and say “we’re fine”. There’s no issue on the interior of the line, he’s been fine there, but we’re approaching critical level at OT.

They lose Munford, NPF, Paris, Jones and Wray over the next two years. They currently only have Zen, Jackson and maybe Christman as guys who can fill those spots. Adding Wagner would be nice, but he’s going to need a few years similar to NPF. Having three starting-level tackles (one of which is definitely better suited at guard) is unacceptable.
 
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HotMic said:
When it comes to OL, you can’t just throw out the numbers as a whole and say “we’re fine”. There’s no issue on the interior of the line, he’s been fine there, but we’re approaching critical level at OT.

They lose Munford, NPF, Paris, Jones and Wray over the next two years. They currently only have Zen, Jackson and maybe Christman as guys who can fill those spots. Adding Wagner would be nice, but he’s going to need a few years similar to NPF. Having three starting-level tackles (one of which is definitely better suited at guard) is unacceptable.
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And it's looking like Christman and Tshaboula will be OGs, so not good on OT depth.

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Swung and missed on multiple 5 star OT's over multiple years without a compensating pick up.

That trend simply doesn't exist at any other recruiting position on the OSU staff.

One or two is a coincidence, this is getting into trend territory.
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But the way our OL has performed, it's hard to think that he's on a hot seat. IDK if he needs a baby sitter to assist him recruiting or what, but OT recruiting has been less than stellar.
 
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Jaxbuck said:
Swung and missed on multiple 5 star OT's over multiple years without a compensating pick up.

That trend simply doesn't exist at any other recruiting position on the OSU staff.

One or two is a coincidence, this is getting into trend territory.
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We do this every year. This time it’s Stud. Last time it was Alford. Before that it was DT recruiting.

If the players that are being brought in are progressing and are playing up to OSU standards, who cares about the star next to their name? Especially at OL.
 
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buchtelgrad04 said:
We do this every year. This time it’s Stud. Last time it was Alford. Before that it was DT recruiting.

If the players that are being brought in are progressing and are playing up to OSU standards, who cares about the star next to their name? Especially at OL.
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Alford caught heat and fixed it in a big way just one year later. Stud has not done this, at least with OT's.

As far as the second part goes, if the staff can just take any old 3 star and get OSU level play from them then why go after guys like Carman, Latham and Goodwin? The "stars are overrated" thing is a cop out. The staff has identified certain guys, prioritized them and then missed on them. There is no good way to spin that in terms of OT recruiting.
 
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Jaxbuck said:
Alford caught heat and fixed it in a big way just one year later. Stud has not done this, at least with OT's.

As far as the second part goes, if the staff can just take any old 3 star and get OSU level play from them then why go after guys like Carman, Latham and Goodwin? The "stars are overrated" thing is a cop out. The staff has identified certain guys, prioritized them and then missed on them. There is no good way to spin that in terms of OT recruiting.
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How is it a cop out when guys, especially offensive linemen, routinely outperform or underperform according to their ranking? None of the linemen that are projected to go in the first round were 5 stars and Penei Sewell was a 4 star OG.

If the unit can plug-and-play as well as they did last year, I’m not sure why there are any complaints. They’ll land 2 good OT’s this year and probably a 3rd development guy.

Somebody mentioned Wagner being a guy that won’t see the field for a few years as a knock against him. Goodwin is the same way, so I’m not sure the issue there? His body transformation is amazing. He’s still a raw prospect.
 
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MaxBuck said:
Given how good our OLs have been the past couple of years, it seems to have worked pretty well.
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I don't have complaints about how he's coached them up. But the goal at tOSU is to win NCs and as we saw against Bama, you have to be close to elite at every position group. If he can't bring in the top depth that the other top schools do, it will cost us. Just a reality of the situation. I definitely acknowledge the success he's had. Just saying his recruiting is lacking a bit by the high standards at Ohio State
 
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OregonBuckeye said:
I don't have complaints about how he's coached them up. But the goal at tOSU is to win NCs and as we saw against Bama, you have to be close to elite at every position group. If he can't bring in the top depth that the other top schools do, it will cost us. Just a reality of the situation. I definitely acknowledge the success he's had. Just saying his recruiting is lacking a bit by the high standards at Ohio State
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Do not be mistaken, it’s not “other top schools.” It’s actually just that one school.

Compared to anyone not named Alabama, where is OSU lacking depth?
 
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