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2022 IN OT Kiyaunta Goodwin (Kentucky Verbal)

Discussion in 'Football Recruiting' started by HotMic, Aug 17, 2020.

  1. ShowMeBuck

    ShowMeBuck You know what? Chicken butt.

    I’d be fine holding this team to the standard that’s been set by the last few O Lines. Which is the point that some of us have been trying to make. Additionally I think it is ridiculous to think stud can’t recruit when he clearly has and you cannot convince me that it takes a certain talent to recruit outside guys versus inside guys. It’s not logical to say that missing on some elite tackles points to him being a bad recruiter

    And it absolutely doesn’t point to him being a bad position coach.

    Does it suck? Yes

    ....does it prove anything? No.
  2. ShowMeBuck

    ShowMeBuck You know what? Chicken butt.

    The fact that this conversation is happening in a recruits thread who passed on the gold standard Bama and other elite schools is incredibly ironic.
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  3. Jaxbuck

    Jaxbuck I hate tsun ‘18 Fantasy Baseball Champ

    We don't know why he's missed on a series of elite tackles but he clearly has. Why, is open to speculation.

    I, personally, don't dismiss topics just because I don't have the answers to the questions. I think it's healthy to ask "why?" if you don't know. To each their own on that world view however.
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  4. zincfinger

    zincfinger Gert Frobe-approved

    I don’t think it’s a question of different skill sets (recruiting tackles vs. recruiting interior linemen) so much as it’s a question of degree of difficulty. Elite tackle prospects are in shorter supply than are elite guard prospects, and so it is harder to consistently land elite tackle prospects.
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  5. buchtelgrad04

    buchtelgrad04 Pain is an opinion.

    You’re arguing a point nobody made. I never said all players are equal coming into a program. I said everybody, specifically OL, outside of one or two people are projects. I don’t care what program they came from. A 5 star from IMG can be further along than a 3 star from the middle of nowhere when they hit campus. That doesn’t mean the 5 star will see the field faster nor does it mean the 5 star will have a better career.

    The NFL draft shows you every year that OL recruiting is a crapshoot. Look at recruiting rankings. Just pick a year since 2013 or 14 and see how many of the top 5 OT’s were drafted in the first round. At a premium position, by the way. Heck, in the class of 2015 none of the top 5 guys were even drafted at all and there were 12 OT’s taken in the three 1st rounds that they would’ve been eligible. 2018, ‘19, and ‘20.
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  6. ShowMeBuck

    ShowMeBuck You know what? Chicken butt.

    Maybe Goodwin will end this debate somewhat and flip to the good guys.

    He’s anything but a sure thing though. I’ve always heard it’s the hardest position to project on and this guy has things you can’t teach but it’s yet to be seen how he will do.

    I’d say the closest guy to a sure thing, PJ is a Buckeye. So there’s that.
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