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what was a fucking travesty was the way the ESPN heads were giving ray "the knife" lewis a fucking blow job. he clearly was tackling the TE before the ball got there. was it minimal? maybe. but to listen to them talk you would think lewis walks on water.
 
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Garcia is the only thing that offense has.
He isn't big, and he doesn't have a strong arm, but he has alot of heart.

The o-line is terrible. I know Baltimore has a great defense, but man that was tough.
If Davis doesn't get a couple top o-lineman, and a pass rusher next off season, I will go crazy. The Browns don't get any rush without blitzing.

If fucking Shea could catch, that would have been a TD.
They should be playing OT right now.
 
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I dont want to bash you, but that comment was retarded. Did you not see Garcia staying alive in the pocket on there only 2 good drives. Most quarterbacks would of threw those passes away or took a sack. But, once again the Browns get boned, and lose. Theisman is a moron. He is so far up Ray Lewis's ass it aint funny. How could you actually say that wasnt holding. Shea should of caught the ball though.
 
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smitty03 said:
I dont want to bash you, but that comment was retarded. Did you not see Garcia staying alive in the pocket on there only 2 good drives. Most quarterbacks would of threw those passes away or took a sack. But, once again the Browns get boned, and lose. Theisman is a moron. He is so far up Ray Lewis's ass it aint funny. How could you actually say that wasnt holding. Shea should of caught the ball though.
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I saw what Garcia did. He had his signature, utterly mediocre game until their final drive when he was able to outmaneuver a couple of defensive linemen and lead his gaggle of talentless ass clowns down the field. Believe it or not - no matter - I was thoroughly convinced he was going to throw the game away. The holding/pass interference was borderline borderline at best (yes, borderline borderline), and the more I look at Reed's pick, the more I think he did keep it off the grass. Bottom line is that Garcia is my least favorite NFLer since Kurt Warner. I hope the Browns are pleased with him as their "leader" until he's 53 or however old he'll be at the end of his ridiculous contract.

I'm quite sure someone will want to know why I have it out for Garcia, so I'll just say it now. It basically comes down to the media shoving their collective tongue up an average player's ass because they think he's "tough" and "has a lot of heart." Sorry - it just doesn't work for me. I didn't like Lucas, I didn't like Rudy, and I don't like Jeff Garcia. Go back to the CFL, you squeaky voiced poo stabber.

If I want tough, I'll watch Favre and McNair.
 
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I am not a Browns fan but Lewis held Shea and there was nothing borderline about it. It's too bad that dickhead Theisman and Paul McGuire were too busy trying to pry their heads up Lewis' ass instead of watching the correct replay. Lewis had a handful of Shea's jersey if you caught the replay from the back of the endzone, a big handful. Shea probably should have made the catch anyway but it should have been 1st and goal. Unfortunately you can't review a holding call, or a lack of one. The Browns got hosed.
 
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Lewis' momentum initially carried him away from the play - he and Shea were heading in opposite directions. The hold (what there was of one) came at the last second as Lewis tried frantically to catch up and make a play on the ball. I wasn't too surprised that it was not called.

The catch Shea would have had to make there was far more difficult than people think. Garcia threw the ball too low and much too fast for so short a pass, and it ended up hitting Shea in the right shoulder (the far one). He had to basically fall down to get close to catching it, and consequently didn't have an opportunity to square his body to the pass. Kudos, Jeff.
 
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The Browns suck
Garcia sucks (possibly in more ways than one)
and....butch Davis really sucks!!!!!! Spend an f'n draft pick on a lineman you
dope. Aside from Faine, they've completely ignored the o-line. Everyone thats a Browns fan (not I) knows that. Get rid of that chawbacon Davis and get a real coach thats not afraid to pass around some responsibility. Who really though Garcia was the answer when they wasted all that $$$ on him whiole not getting any good lineman.
 
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Some of you are blind. garcia isn't the best QB in the world, but he is better than anything else the Browns have had since they returned.


If Bitch Davis would get some o-lineman in here that would opent he running game up, and opent he passing game up.

Those of you that just want to pick on Garcia are fools.
 
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Who really though Garcia was the answer when they wasted all that $$ on him whiole not getting any good lineman.
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Actually they got garcia for a good price on a backloaded contract, fully knowing he won't stay the entire length. it was a smart financial signing.


Cleveland's OL is a disastor, but that is hardly relevant to the point that ray lewis got away with a blatant PI penalty based on his name.<!-- / message -->
 
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Actually they got garcia for a good price on a backloaded contract, fully knowing he won't stay the entire length. it was a smart financial signing.


Cleveland's OL is a disastor, but that is hardly relevant to the point that ray lewis got away with a blatant PI penalty based on his name.<!-- / message -->
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Come on now. Was it PI? yes. However, I wouldn't call it blatant.
Also, that didn't have anything to do with Shea not catching it the ball.
He still should have caught it.
 
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