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Honor&Glory
Paper,Rock, Scissors, Lizard, Spock!
I just have a feeling that Fick is going to stay in Cincinnati for one more year at least. based on what he said at the colerain stag when he was hired leads me to believe morgantown is not a great fit. Fick and his family are strong in their Catholic faith. arent too many Catholic school or parish options in WV. think that will play a major role.
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Jagdaddy
Head Coach
It's also only a small step up from a lateral move,"power" 5 conference notwithstanding. IMO, he can make a lot of hay at Cincy against weak competition with MSU/Minny/Wisconsin-level Ohio kids for another year or two and then take a significantly better job than WVU.
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I dont know, being willing and able to play Defense in the Big XII might just assure him a shot at the playoffs every year. lol
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Article about how Cincinnati and Rutgers took advantage of a recruiting loophole (likely to be shut down by NCAA soon).
How Cincinnati did this is what makes Phillips’ recruitment process so notable. Cincinnati, along with Rutgers, found and used a loophole in the NCAA rules to directly evaluate and build relationships with possible recruits in late winter, well ahead of the spring evaluation and summer camp period.
The rules regarding college football coaches and access to prospective student-athletes are complex and hard-and-fast, tied to certain periods of the calendar year. But coaches are always looking for an edge. There was drama over satellite camps a few years ago. Then there was running spring football on the IMG Academy campus.
Club teams became the latest loophole.
NCAA bylaw 13.11.2.4 allows any coach to get involved with or run a club team of prospects, as long as everything tied to it is held off campus and is not affiliated with the university. Prospective players must be within a 50-mile radius of the school, which, based on population density, makes this practice more advantageous for programs in metropolitan areas. The rule was intended to help coaches of non-revenue sports make a little extra income on the side in the summer. Basketball is specifically excluded, in part because of the AAU circuit. Football is not.
How Cincinnati did this is what makes Phillips’ recruitment process so notable. Cincinnati, along with Rutgers, found and used a loophole in the NCAA rules to directly evaluate and build relationships with possible recruits in late winter, well ahead of the spring evaluation and summer camp period.
The rules regarding college football coaches and access to prospective student-athletes are complex and hard-and-fast, tied to certain periods of the calendar year. But coaches are always looking for an edge. There was drama over satellite camps a few years ago. Then there was running spring football on the IMG Academy campus.
Club teams became the latest loophole.
NCAA bylaw 13.11.2.4 allows any coach to get involved with or run a club team of prospects, as long as everything tied to it is held off campus and is not affiliated with the university. Prospective players must be within a 50-mile radius of the school, which, based on population density, makes this practice more advantageous for programs in metropolitan areas. The rule was intended to help coaches of non-revenue sports make a little extra income on the side in the summer. Basketball is specifically excluded, in part because of the AAU circuit. Football is not.
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sparcboxbuck
What happened to my ¤cash?
From a very selfish perspective, I hope that they specifically name football as they did basketball and leave the non-revenue sports alone. The benefit of having college coaches being able to work with club teams, again I know this is selfish, has paid huge dividends to the growth and development of our game.
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OhioState001
Tressel Loyalist
Poor Luke had a great season and gets stuck playing in the Birmingham Bowl against Boston College. The downside of coaching at a school like Cincy
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ScriptOhio
Everybody is somebody else's weirdo.
HELPING THE ENEMY. Ahead of national signing day in 2010, Ohio State had room for one more player in the recruiting class, and they chose Verlon Reed (a name I would certainly forgive you if you don't remember).
Instead, the Buckeyes sent their other choice to Mark Dantonio. And he uh... had a good career.
Reed's competition was a three-star running back with limited hype and only a small handful of scholarship opportunities, a prospect who until the final stretch of his recruitment seemed destined to play in the Mid-American Conference. Ohio State liked him — just not enough to extend an offer. Instead, then-coach Jim Tressel called up then-Michigan State football coach Mark Dantonio, a former Ohio State assistant, and shared what his staff knew about the recruit.
The running back, Le'Veon Bell, would sign with the Spartans and run for 3,346 yards with 34 touchdowns across three seasons, and then blossom into one of the best players at his position in the NFL. Reed, meanwhile, would last two seasons with the Buckeyes before transferring.
"I don’t feel any regret for it," said Cincinnati coach Luke Fickell, previously a longtime Ohio State assistant at the time of Bell's recruitment. "Sometimes it’s not always the best fit where you are, or numbers-wise, or whatever. It probably helped the kid get in a lot better place and get some exposure. And you know they’re going with good people.
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In a number of cases, however, with Bell as one notable example, the link between prospect and program is sparked by relationships between coaches, who tap into friendships and connections to trade names, insight and information on recruits. Coaches unable to make things work with a specific player — whether due to numbers, academics or otherwise — will share that knowledge with peers, with the goal of eventually finding the recruit a landing spot before signing day.
While reading this, I almost audibly said "that's an extremely Jim Tressel thing to do" just before I got to the part that says Urban Meyer did not participate in this process with the Spartans.
And I get it, from both coaches. Tressel wanted to make sure the kid he couldn't take found a good home with a coach he trusted, but Meyer had absolutely no interest in helping a conference opponent.
This is exactly why I love Luke Fickell at Cincinnati – you can funnels you can't take to Fickell with a clean conscious, knowing they're never going to bite you in the ass down the road (unless the Bearcats miraculously make the playoff, in which case, tip the cap).
Entire article: https://www.elevenwarriors.com/skul...g-for-an-xfl-title-and-dwayne-haskins-flashed
Instead, the Buckeyes sent their other choice to Mark Dantonio. And he uh... had a good career.
Reed's competition was a three-star running back with limited hype and only a small handful of scholarship opportunities, a prospect who until the final stretch of his recruitment seemed destined to play in the Mid-American Conference. Ohio State liked him — just not enough to extend an offer. Instead, then-coach Jim Tressel called up then-Michigan State football coach Mark Dantonio, a former Ohio State assistant, and shared what his staff knew about the recruit.
The running back, Le'Veon Bell, would sign with the Spartans and run for 3,346 yards with 34 touchdowns across three seasons, and then blossom into one of the best players at his position in the NFL. Reed, meanwhile, would last two seasons with the Buckeyes before transferring.
"I don’t feel any regret for it," said Cincinnati coach Luke Fickell, previously a longtime Ohio State assistant at the time of Bell's recruitment. "Sometimes it’s not always the best fit where you are, or numbers-wise, or whatever. It probably helped the kid get in a lot better place and get some exposure. And you know they’re going with good people.
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In a number of cases, however, with Bell as one notable example, the link between prospect and program is sparked by relationships between coaches, who tap into friendships and connections to trade names, insight and information on recruits. Coaches unable to make things work with a specific player — whether due to numbers, academics or otherwise — will share that knowledge with peers, with the goal of eventually finding the recruit a landing spot before signing day.
While reading this, I almost audibly said "that's an extremely Jim Tressel thing to do" just before I got to the part that says Urban Meyer did not participate in this process with the Spartans.
And I get it, from both coaches. Tressel wanted to make sure the kid he couldn't take found a good home with a coach he trusted, but Meyer had absolutely no interest in helping a conference opponent.
This is exactly why I love Luke Fickell at Cincinnati – you can funnels you can't take to Fickell with a clean conscious, knowing they're never going to bite you in the ass down the road (unless the Bearcats miraculously make the playoff, in which case, tip the cap).
Entire article: https://www.elevenwarriors.com/skul...g-for-an-xfl-title-and-dwayne-haskins-flashed
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