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DLP or Plasma - Which is Better - Or Better Value?

sandgk

Watson, Crick & A Twist
Contemplating a new viewing experience on getting into our new digs.

The old style Projection Big Screen has gone tits up on me. Repairing it is not a good option, so hello new technology.

Definitely going to go with HDTV or HDTV capable.

Definitely going to go with 42 - 50 wide (maybe more).

The only question I have in my mind is whether it is best to go with DLP (Talen type) or go fer broke with Plasma.

So which is better, DLP Projection or Plasma and is either worth it?
 
I bought a 42 inch HD plasma this August. I looked at a lot of options. We needed a wall mount for space reasons. What I have liked about the plasma is the great picture from so many angles within a room. My other choice would have been to go with an HD projector, but sales folks warned me that unless you build a theatre room and make it big enough that you can get back from the screen you won't be happy. I had other plans for the basement so we went with the plasma and I've been very happy with it.

WARNING: Once you start watching football in HD you will find it difficult to watch anything on non HD.
 
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My buddy got a great deal on a 50" plasma and it is the most amazing TV that I've seen. I don't know much about DLP, but I do know that much of the bad press about plasma is BS. A plasma will last just as long a other TVs, and you never have to refill the plasma. Depending on the room you are putting the TV in you could save some money and just go with a standard projection HDTV. The biggest bonus with plasma and DLP are the total viewing angle. I'd say look at both of them and buy the one that will fit your space and give you the best value.
I'm hesitant to buy an HDTV until the plasma and DLP technologies come down in price. I just bought a normal CRT 32" tv for $250 and it will hopefully last me until I really want to upgrade to HDTV.
 
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I would go with DLP. Sony has an awesome new setup with their SXRD technology which has twice as many pixels as a normal HDTV.


First of all we are talking about 3 different technologies ... not 2.

Plasma, DLP and LCD, the last 2 being of micro-projection variety. The Sony boxes are LCD, not DLP. Their new SXRD is a hybrid of LCD technology. I'll deal with the 2 technologies you are asking about ... DLP vs Plasma.


Plasma screen enjoy an advantage in a wide range of categories including clarity, saturation, brightness, etc. It's also a smaller package at almost any screen size (thinner/smaller). DLPs are becoming thinner though and you will see models that can mount directly on the wall in the near future. As with all things the image quality is dependant upon the source. (Cable, antenna, satelite, DVD, VCR, etc.). Great video sources will look pretty damn good on either technology.

Plasmas have an almost perfect 180° viewing range. DLPs and LCDs are good, but not THAT good.

DLP generally uses less electricity to run a screen of the same size.

DPL will be available soon in sizes up to 84 inches! Plasma is currently maxed out at 61 (IIRC).

DLP is less expensive than plasma.

DLPs are NOT affected by altitude. Plasma (gas in a tube) will have problems and consume more energy as altitude goes up. Serious problems occur at 6500 feet.

DLPs do in FACT have a longer lifespan than Plasma. DLP is a 'light and mirror' technology. Once the bulb burns out (80,000 hours average), simply replace it ($200) and start another 80,000 hours. Plasma, by contrast, uses a small electric pulse for each pixel to excite the rare natural gases argon, neon, and xenon to produce the color information and light. As electrons excite the phosphors, oxygen atoms dissipate. These rare gases actually have a life and fade over time (60,000 hours average) The life of the plasma display itself is usually determined by half-life of the phosphors. So at 30,000 hours the phosphors will be at their half-life, and the viewer will be seeing an image that has half the brightness capability. At this point the TV is on it's last legs. The gases in plasma TVs cannot be replaced.

DLPs do have one major drawback. The DLP 'rainbow effect' is an artifact unique to single-chip DLP projectors. The artifact appears as a rainbow or multi-color shimmer briefly noticeable when changing focus from one part of the projector screen to another. It appears as a secondary image that appears at the viewer's peripheral vision and is generally noticeable when shifting focus from a high contrast area or bright object. This effect is NOT noticed by all viewers. I believe the percentage quoted was less than 10% of viewers. The newer 3-chip DLP projectors, higher wheel speeds, 7-segment color wheels, and new color wheel designs are minimizing or may altogether elminate the effect.


In short, if money isn't really the object I'd go with plasma. The picture is generally better across a wide variety of video input. If cost is an issue and you would be happy with a very good picture (but not the best thing available) go with DLP. Having said all that ... I went with a 50" Sony LCD. :biggrin: They are the ONLY manufacturer I would consider for LCD technology. Their picture was every bit as good (if not better) than ANY DLP screen. There are of course pros and cons with LCD technology as well ... but we'll save that for a different day.

PS exhawg is correct in one critical aspect. CRT televisions STILL rate out with the best picture quality. But that difference in quality is closing fast. The down side to CRT technology? 36" is the maximum screen size available AND it's a pretty big box.
 
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Were does HD come into the picture?

I just want to watch football in Hi-Def. Are all the afformentioned HD ready ?

Excuse the idiotic questions, I still use a 12 year old Sony.
 
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Were does HD come into the picture?

I just want to watch football in Hi-Def. Are all the afformentioned HD ready ?

Excuse the idiotic questions, I still use a 12 year old Sony.

Most new TVs come HD ready with a built in tuner, so you can use an antenna to get over-the-air channels.
Or you get the box, from Time Warner or whomever, and you connect the box to your TV like normal...
 
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Check out phillips online outlet store they have some pretty good deals on factory renewed televisions in different sizes and display options.
Thanks - that's a great suggestion, Phillips is well regarded for quality.

Thanks also to all those giving good feedback on the relative merits of the competing technologies. (3yards and his treatise takes the cake :biggrin:).

So summarizing - I don't have to pay top dollar, try some of the online stores (Phillips is one, I also found Dr. Plasma which seems able to get best deals on new in-carton displays).

Here is how I think this through.

Plasma - State-of-The Art. Best Picture from any angle, roughly 2x the cost of a "thin" DLP like a Toshiba Talen.
Lasts 30,000 hours or 7 years of use if left on in most waking hours, 10+ if you decide you have to work to live.
Screen Size max current 61-inch not a problem, wasn't going that big anyway.

Sony's variant on DLP - I'm glad others like SIMV found this to be a great technology, but my beef with it is that Sony wants to be paid a kings ransom for their own in-house development rather than fill TI's pockets with licensing fees - and thus deliver a cheaper product.

DLP - (as in the Texas Instrument technology) Cheaper than Plasma, poorer viewing arc than Plasma. Less candle power than Plasma, more candle power than LCD.

LCD - Less brilliant than DLP, cheapest overall technology.

All in all for the screen size I want (~50) there is no limit on the technology available - I can choose any of the 3.

From looking at the specs I think that one of the Toshiba 52" HDTV 16:9 DLP Projection units is what will be in my future ...

Unless Phillips has an extremely well priced offering.

Dr. Plasma has one of these Toshiba units for under $1600, so I think the price is going to be hard to beat.
 
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Just let me say again that if you're going to get a TV like this get it with HD and get cable or sattelite (sp?) HD connection. The difference is well worth the price. The T-W DVR box allows you to record and save up to 35 hours. The Fiesta Bowl is staying on my saved list until I can get an HD recorder... probably next fall... But again I warn you, watching games in HD spoils you. It's difficult to accpet anything less.

Don't let you wife see Discovery channel in HD either or there will be serious fights over program selection. You can get lost for hours on Discovery.
 
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Sony's variant on DLP - I'm glad others like SIMV found this to be a great technology, but my beef with it is that Sony wants to be paid a kings ransom for their own in-house development rather than fill TI's pockets with licensing fees - and thus deliver a cheaper product.

DLP - (as in the Texas Instrument technology) Cheaper than Plasma, poorer viewing arc than Plasma. Less candle power than Plasma, more candle power than LCD.

IMHO, if you are going 50"+, go for a 1080p set.
It will be the future of TV, and why pay all that money for a TV that isn't quite what it could be now, let alone in just a couple of years?
There are 1080p DLP sets, the SXRD (still my favourite), and I think JVC has one too (HD-ILA?)
 
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